# datasets

id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
name: discussion_demo.csv
source: discussion_demo.csv
user_id: ce0fb656-07c3-4e59-bdde-57f01b0449eb
uploaded_at: 2026-02-11 12:02:52.709643
column_list:
["id", "discussion", "parent", "userid", "userfullname", "created", "modified", "mailed", "subject", "message", "messageformat", "messagetrust", "attachment", "totalscore", "mailnow", "deleted", "privatereplyto", "privatereplytofullname", "wordcount", "charcount"]


# analysis_runs

id: beec0243-bfc4-4109-bc32-094853a3039a
dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
user_id: ce0fb656-07c3-4e59-bdde-57f01b0449eb
created_at: 2026-02-11 12:02:52.709643
status: validation_completed
config_json:
{"professors": [], "deadlines": {}, "analysis_settings": {"enable_ml_attributes": true, "auto_compute_attributes": false, "y_value": 1000}, "ai_insights_settings": {"summary_model": "manual", "summary_temperature": 0.0, "low_engagement_threshold": 0.25, "low_posts_threshold": 5, "deadline_miss_threshold": 1, "low_professor_reply_threshold": 1, "slow_reply_threshold_hours": 24, "zscore_low_threshold": -1.5, "zscore_high_threshold": 2.5}, "ai_insight_rules": [{"id": "low_engagement_combo", "label": "Low Engagement", "severity": "high", "message": "Engagement rate and posting activity fall below configured thresholds.", "conditions": [{"column": "engagement_rate", "op": "lt", "setting": "low_engagement_threshold"}, {"column": "total_posts", "op": "lt", "setting": "low_posts_threshold"}], "playbook": ["Send a nudge summarizing missed interactions.", "Offer a short 1:1 check-in slot."]}, {"id": "few_professor_replies", "label": "No replies to professor", "severity": "medium", "message": "Replies back to the professor are below the configured threshold.", "conditions": [{"column": "total_replies_to_professor", "op": "le", "setting": "low_professor_reply_threshold"}]}, {"id": "slow_responder", "label": "Slow response times", "severity": "medium", "message": "Average reply time exceeds configured hours.", "conditions": [{"column": "avg_reply_time", "op": "gt", "setting": "slow_reply_threshold_hours"}]}]}


# raw_posts

dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-17 12:13:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-20 11:09:00.000000
subject: Praxis-oriented education
message:
System planning and System operation (combo): based on real tasks and cooperative workflows... In this bubble, you can interpret the didactical challenges: What should be changed? Why? What should be done in an other way as before?

raw_payload:
{"id": 162970, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 0, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-17T12:13:00", "modified": "2024-10-20T11:09:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Praxis-oriented education", "message": "System planning and System operation (combo): based on real tasks and cooperative workflows... In this bubble, you can interpret the didactical challenges: What should be changed? Why? What should be done in an other way as before?\r\n", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 37, "charcount": 195}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-20 11:29:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-20 11:29:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message:
Dear Students,
if you have any questions, do not hesitate to contanct me via email (ptlklszl@my-x.hu) at any time...
Laci (mentor)

raw_payload:
{"id": 163025, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 162970, "userid": 44100, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-20T11:29:00", "modified": "2024-10-20T11:29:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "Dear Students,\r\nif you have any questions, do not hesitate to contanct me via email (ptlklszl@my-x.hu) at any time...\r\nLaci (mentor)", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 21, "charcount": 110}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-20 11:32:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-20 11:32:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message: or via email (pitlik.laszo@kodolanyi.hu) Laszlo Pitlik (head of dept)
raw_payload:
{"id": 163026, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 163025, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-20T11:32:00", "modified": "2024-10-20T11:32:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "or via email (pitlik.laszo@kodolanyi.hu)\r\nLaszlo Pitlik (head of dept)", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 9, "charcount": 61}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-20 11:42:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-20 11:48:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message:
In case of each problem/question, please, consult chatGPT immediately, like in case of the final exam...

raw_payload:
{"id": 163027, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 162970, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-20T11:42:00", "modified": "2024-10-20T11:48:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "In case of each problem/question, please, consult chatGPT immediately, like in case of the final exam...", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 16, "charcount": 89}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-20 11:48:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-20 11:48:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message:
Useful information at all times: if you use chatGPT you need to save both your prompt and the full response of chatGPT. In case of your final thesis, you have to include all these (prompt + response) in the annex section...

raw_payload:
{"id": 163028, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 163027, "userid": 44100, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-20T11:48:00", "modified": "2024-10-20T11:48:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "Useful information at all times: if you use chatGPT you need to save both your prompt and the full response of chatGPT. In case of your final thesis, you have to include all these (prompt + response) in the annex section...", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 41, "charcount": 183}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-21 21:27:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-21 21:27:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message: https://chatgpt.com/
raw_payload:
{"id": 163065, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 163028, "userid": 47139, "userfullname": "student_6", "created": "2024-10-21T21:27:00", "modified": "2024-10-21T21:27:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "https://chatgpt.com/", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 1, "charcount": 20}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_24
created: 2024-10-24 12:35:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 12:35:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message: How we can imagine ChatGPT using in the final exam situation ?
raw_payload:
{"id": 163128, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 163027, "userid": 45304, "userfullname": "student_24", "created": "2024-10-24T12:35:00", "modified": "2024-10-24T12:35:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "How we can imagine ChatGPT using in the final exam situation ?", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 12, "charcount": 51}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_11
created: 2024-10-24 12:47:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 15:31:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message:
How would the collaborative moodle based work connect with the bprof-subjects? What effects (e.g. the work must have Excel in it, so in what way it connects with programing1 or databases bprof-subject?) does it have on those subjects?
(Edited by László Pitlik - original submission Thursday, 24 October 2024, 12:47 PM)

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_11
created: 2024-10-24 13:00:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 13:00:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message:
Some students and users of the current moodle system are keep geting notifications of the forum entry comments, some aren't. Why is that?

raw_payload:
{"id": 163131, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 162970, "userid": 45297, "userfullname": "student_11", "created": "2024-10-24T13:00:00", "modified": "2024-10-24T13:00:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "Some students and users of the current moodle system are keep geting notifications of the forum entry comments, some aren't. Why is that?", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 23, "charcount": 115}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-24 15:30:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 15:30:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message:
Assumption: The question of a professor (in frame of a final exam) should be - What is the difference between two terms: system modelling and system planning? One of the most ideal reaction of a Student could be - I ask immediately the chatGPT and I will finetune the answer of chatGPT in real time - in oder to demonstrate, that a human being is better than the machine...

raw_payload:
{"id": 163139, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 163128, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-24T15:30:00", "modified": "2024-10-24T15:30:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "Assumption: The question of a professor (in frame of a final exam) should be - What is the difference between two terms: system modelling and system planning? One of the most ideal reaction of a Student could be - I ask immediately the chatGPT and I will finetune the answer of chatGPT in real time - in oder to demonstrate, that a human being is better than the machine...", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 69, "charcount": 305}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-24 15:38:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 15:38:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message:
Example: The collaboratice Moodle-course has here and now at least one thread (see demo0 about standardization), where we try to derive a system plan (incl. a system operation concept) for handling (not-)standardized answers. This planning should have a particular phase, where the handling of not-standardized strings (emails) will lead to Excel-files (c.f. pseudo-codes). This Excel-files deliver demo-solutions, where the processing of not-standardized strings produce (based on chained formulas) standardized inputs for a simulated database incl. self-checking reports using pivot-tables...

raw_payload:
{"id": 163140, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 163129, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-24T15:38:00", "modified": "2024-10-24T15:38:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "Example: The collaboratice Moodle-course has here and now at least one thread (see demo0 about standardization), where we try to derive a system plan (incl. a system operation concept) for handling (not-)standardized answers. This planning should have a particular phase, where the handling of not-standardized strings (emails) will lead to Excel-files (c.f. pseudo-codes). This Excel-files deliver demo-solutions, where the processing of not-standardized strings produce (based on chained formulas) standardized inputs for a simulated database incl. self-checking reports using pivot-tables...", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 79, "charcount": 516}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-24 15:39:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 15:39:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message: ...in progress...
raw_payload:
{"id": 163141, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 163131, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-24T15:39:00", "modified": "2024-10-24T15:39:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "...in progress...", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 2, "charcount": 16}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-24 22:21:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 22:21:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Praxis-oriented education
message: The particular Moodle System does not have any log-data about the sent messages... :-(
raw_payload:
{"id": 163158, "discussion": 62876, "parent": 163141, "userid": 43841, "userfullname": "professor_2", "created": "2024-10-24T22:21:00", "modified": "2024-10-24T22:21:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Praxis-oriented education", "message": "The particular Moodle System does not have any log-data about the sent messages... :-(", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 14, "charcount": 73}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-20 11:57:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-20 11:59:00.000000
subject: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Please, read the follwowing document:https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997  (ca. 15 minutes)

Please, create a new entry within this thread (bubble/topic): what is exactly a standardized answer concerning the highlighted document above? (ca. 15 minutes)

Please, create an other entry (in this thread) about one or more potential not-standardized answer-possibilites! (ca. 15 minutes)

Please, follow frequently the thread and please, comment the entries of the other Students! (min. 60 minutes during the whole semester)


raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-20 12:00:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-20 12:00:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Sub-thread: standardized answers Post your entries replying to THIS comment!
raw_payload:
{"id": 163030, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163029, "userid": 44100, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-20T12:00:00", "modified": "2024-10-20T12:00:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "Sub-thread: standardized answers\r\nPost your entries replying to THIS comment!", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 10, "charcount": 67}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-20 12:01:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-20 12:01:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Sub-thread: NOT-standardized answers Post your entries replying to THIS comment!
raw_payload:
{"id": 163031, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163029, "userid": 44100, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-20T12:01:00", "modified": "2024-10-20T12:01:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "Sub-thread: NOT-standardized answers\r\nPost your entries replying to THIS comment!", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 10, "charcount": 71}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-23 17:41:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 17:41:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
I think this is a standard answer:

Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline - [Month] [Year]

Dear Mentor,

I would like to inform you that my planned thesis submission deadline is [month] [year]. I am actively working on the project and will make full use of the mentoring opportunities you provide.

I will ensure that all communication is carried out in the appropriate format and within the required timeframes. Please expect my participation in the MS Teams group as well, and I will reach out if I need any further consultations or assistance.

Thank you for your attention and support!

Best regards,
[Full Name]
[NEPTUN Code]

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-23 17:42:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 17:47:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
I think this is a NOT-standard answer:

Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline - [Month] [Year]

Hey,

Just a heads-up that I plan to submit my thesis in [month] [year]. Im keeping up with the work and will definitely use the mentoring options youve mentioned.

Ill follow the communication rules and be active in the MS Teams group. If I need any help, Ill reach out.

Thanks a lot for your support!

Best,
[Full Name]
[NEPTUN Code]

OR

if you don't write anything.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-23 19:55:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 19:55:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
What is the exact definition of the standardized status? Exact (Knuth-oriented) is a definition, if a source code can be derived without any antagonisms.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-23 19:57:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 19:58:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: This answer does definitely belong to the NOT-standardized sub-thread!
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-23 20:01:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 20:01:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Is the length of a standardized answer derivable in advance?
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-23 20:03:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 20:03:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Which kind of source code is needed in order to be capable of handling such an not-standardized answer, if we try to interpret (= to store in a database) for each Student only the planned deadline for closing the education periode?

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-23 20:58:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 20:58:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Definition of Standardized Status (Knuth-Oriented): A standardized answer is an output that adheres to a precise, predetermined structure where every element and form is derived from a set of fixed, non-conflicting rules. These rules are well-defined and deterministic, meaning that given the same input, the process will consistently generate the same result without ambiguity or contradiction. The structure of the answer is entirely reproducible, much like compiling source code from a clearly defined algorithm.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-23 21:01:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 21:01:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
The length of a standardized answer can indeed be derived in advance if the formatting rules and the nature of the input are known.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-23 21:03:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 21:03:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
The source code to handle such a NOT-standardized answer requires a flexible text parsing algorithm capable of recognizing patterns, handling exceptions, and ensuring data completeness. With the help of regular expressions, keyword matching, and error handling mechanisms, the unstructured text can be converted into structured data, ready for storage in a database.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-23 21:52:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 21:52:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
We do need the exact rule(s) for this particular challenge/problem/situation! Please, do not forget, the objective of the initialized communication is simple: we have only wanted a simple time-data for each person!

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-23 21:55:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 21:55:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
We do need the calculated length and the calculation rule(s) for this particular challenge/problem/situation! A kind of helpful note: Are the definition as such and the lenght as such two interpretations of the same challenge?

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-23 21:57:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 21:57:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
What kind of patterns? Please, define examples: ...
What kind of exceptions? Please, define examples: ...

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-23 21:58:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-23 21:58:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: What do you think about the following helpful note: IF/THEN/ELSE?
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_11
created: 2024-10-24 13:31:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 13:33:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Quotes from the primary e-mail: [Quote]
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-24 15:25:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 15:25:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Based on this text (picture), the standardized answer incl. the expected length of the standardized answer can be derived (quasi?!) in an exact way!

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-24 19:13:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 19:13:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Patterns refer to recurring elements in the text that you need to detect in order to transform unstructured data into structured format.

Dates: For example, "2024-10-24" or "24/10/2024."
Quantities or numbers: For example, "5 cars" or "10 km/h."
Keywords: Specific words or phrases that carry a particular meaning. For example: "OK," "error," "executed."

Exceptions are cases where normal processing patterns dont apply, requiring special handling.

Incomplete data: For example, a missing or incomplete date like "24-10" or "October 24."

The missing part can either be inferred or flagged for user input.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-24 19:14:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 19:14:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
IF/THEN/ELSE conditional logic can be very useful when processing text. For example:

IF the text contains the keyword "error," THEN store it as an error, ELSE continue processing.
IF a number is followed by "km/h," THEN it refers to speed, ELSE check the next unit.
The IF/THEN/ELSE structure is simple, easy to understand, and effective for handling cases like error checking or identifying different data formats.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-24 19:19:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 19:19:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Yes, the length of a standardized answer can be derived in advance if the structure of the input and the formatting rules are well-defined. For example, if the answer must include specific fields like a name (20 characters), a date (10 characters in "YYYY-MM-DD" format), and a numeric value (5 digits), the total length can be calculated as the sum of the length of these components, possibly including separators or spaces.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-24 19:36:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 19:36:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Please, after all these Interpretations, it would be necessary here and now to define exactly the length of the standardized answer and the evidences (= all potential examples).

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-24 19:40:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 19:40:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
All these examples are helpful to derive the length of the standardized answer (=a number between 0 and 99:-) and all potential versions of the standardized answer (strings with the same = ideal lenght - see original expectations in the email in the annex)...

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-24 19:43:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 19:43:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Conclusion: the ELSE-phenomenon is capable to handle all not-standardized strings/texts with the consequence: all unnecessary text-elements should finally be ignored! The text-processing before ELSE is responsible to identify each useful pattern in order to filter/cut the needed fragments.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-27 16:09:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-27 16:09:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Using the assumed structure above, we can calculate the length of a single standardized answer:

Name: 20 characters
Separator after Name: 2 characters
Date: 10 characters
Separator after Date: 2 characters
Value: 5 characters

Adding these together:

20+2+10+2+5=39characters

Thus, each standardized answer would be 39 characters long.

Each standardized answer in this format will be exactly 39 characters long. This calculation assumes strict adherence to the defined structure and that any name longer than 20 characters is truncated or any shorter name is padded. This length, once standardized, allows for predictable parsing and storage in a database or file.
For example: Christopher Johnson , 2022-08-15, 54321

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-27 16:12:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-27 16:12:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: yess!!
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-10-27 16:56:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-27 16:56:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
A standardized answer for this task would strictly follow the mentors instructions, be clear, and concise. It includes selecting one of the specified thesis submission deadlines in the exact format provided, without any additional information or deviations. This shows attention to detail, adheres to formatting rules, and ensures the mentor receives uniform responses from all students.

raw_payload:
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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
I think,non-standardized answers are those that dont strictly follow the mentors specified format. This could include adding extra details, changing the format, or selecting an unlisted deadline.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
It is necessary, parallel to these theoretical aspects, or even without all these theoretical aspects to deliver the simple answer to the simple question. Simple question = What is the ideal length of a standardized answer in the particular situation? The potential answer is a simple number between 0, ..., n, where n < e.g. 100 characters. On the other hand: the simple number as an answer will need a sofisticated argumentation for the parallel question: WHY? Let alone: Numer+argumentation are not enough: each potential standardized answer is also needed (in form of a list), where the idealized number of the length is always given and the argumentation is always valid for all these examples. Each potential example should be given: it is an error, if one or more potential examplex are not available in the particular list and/or there are one or more wrong example in the list.

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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
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The real challenge is, what kind of quasi/semi-standardized answers can be identified, where an answer is semi-standardized, if the element of a standardized answer can be indentified and filtered/cut from the not-standardized environment (wihtout any error). Please, create entries about well-defined semi-standardized answers here and now! Please, discuss the entries of the others! (estimated time: min. 60 minutes). These discursive entries should enforce that potential algorithms will be given as argumentation for possible automation...

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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Semi-standardized answers stick to a basic format but allow some space for changes.e.g specific issue. This means they keep important parts the same while adjusting details to fit specific situations or topics. This way, responses are clear and personal, making it easier to automate while still sounding friendly.For example automated responses from a computer.

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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
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The key-element here is "For example": we do need very exact fromulated examples, but not arbitrary ones. Examples here and now are real strings concerning the demo-question (c.f. https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997). We are working in Moodle for days, and we do still not have the lenght of the standardized answers and we have still not all of the versions of the standardized answers (let alone: we do still not have ONE single standardized answer - although a few of the Students were capable of sending such answers in the past). The same statement is valid for semi-standardized examples. We have a single not-standardized examples which will be handled e.g. in the ELSE-branch of an answer-handling-process in future...

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created: 2024-10-29 09:53:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 09:53:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
To give a standardized answer, we should follow the exact specified format.

Subject Line Precision: The subject line is written exactly as instructed, with thesis submission deadline = followed by one of the allowed options (2026 Apr in this case). No additional words, punctuation, or deviations from the given options are added.

Empty the body: I think adding additional text on the body would break the standardized format. Thus, the body of the email should left empty following the implicit instruction to use the subject line only.

Following an exact pattern will benefit the automation process of gathering data e.g Automated Email Parsing, Regular Expression (Regex) Matching.

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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
This format provides consistent and predictable length, ensuring proper parsing and storage in a database or file.

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created: 2024-10-29 10:23:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
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Agreed to the observations and to add, that when adding semi-standardized answers, it can also be useful to give examples of possible deviations and errors

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created: 2024-10-29 10:48:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Dear Mentor and Classmates,

Here is my standardized answer based on the document:

- The mentors role is to support students in completing tasks related to the thesis.
- Students must email their thesis submission deadline in the specified format by the deadline (e.g., thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr).
- Communication will occur via MS Teams and email, with all submissions containing the students full name and NEPTUN code.

Thank you for the guidance on this process.

Regards,
[Your Name]

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
For the NOT-standardized answers sub-thread, youll need to provide a more personal, creative, or informal response based on your interpretation of the document. Heres how you can approach it:
Hello Professor Pitlik and Classmates,

After reading through the mentors welcome message, its clear how important it is to stay proactive and engaged. I appreciate the structured guidance for the thesis, especially knowing that our work must be reproducible and data-focused. I think this approach really prepares us for real-world applications in computer science.

As for the communication expectations, Ill admit that using multiple platforms (Teams, Moodle, email) can be a lot to manage, but it does make sense to keep everyone updated efficiently. I'll make it a point to stay active and check in daily.

Looking forward to this journey together!

Best,
[Your Name]

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modified: 2024-10-29 11:03:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
NOT-standardized answers deviate from the strict format provided in the instruction.
(e.g. extra information in the subject line"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr - I plan to submit earlier if possible",
alternative wording format "I will submit my thesis in April 2025", OR adding multiple options)

The automated scripts cannot process these examples, making it harder to analyze responses efficiently.

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modified: 2024-10-29 11:16:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
A standardized answer would be a clear, concise, and professional response that follows the mentors outlined requirements and displays an understanding of the instructions provided. Standardized answers must be more objective perspectives, formal and complete. Example of Standardized answers:
Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline

Dear [Mentor Name],

Thank you for the warm welcome, and for outlining the expectations and guidelines for the semester.

I confirm my understanding of the first task and will be sure to submit my thesis deadline [Your chosen deadline date] as instructed. I have taken note of the formatting requirements and will ensure that my email contains the correct subject format for thesis submission.

I also acknowledge that I need to stay active on both my university email and MS Teams and will include my full name and NEPTUN code in all correspondence.

Thank you once again for the information and support!

Best regards,
[Your Name]
[Your NEPTUN Code]

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userfullname: student_8
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modified: 2024-10-29 11:20:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Non-standardized responses could take various forms, as they allow for more personal expression and individuality. Include a friendly or informal tone, with expressions of enthusiasm, share personal thoughts about the expectations and offer additional comments, like sharing availability for calls or personal preferences for project topics or deadlines, if applicable. Lack complete adherence to the formal academic structure also. Example of Not Standardized answer:

Hi [Mentor],

Thanks for the warm welcome back and for all the detailed instructions on how to get started with our thesis work this semester. I appreciate knowing the expectations up front.

Ill make sure to send my deadline preference by the [date] with the exact subject format you specified. Ill also stay on top of my emails and MS Teams notifications to keep everything organized.

Thanks for guiding us through the process!

Best,
[Your Name]

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_21
created: 2024-10-29 11:21:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:21:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
To give a standardized answer, its really about following the instructions to the letter:

Subject Line Precision: The subject line should be exactly as specified: thesis submission deadline = followed by one of the approved dates (like 2026 Apr). Keeping it just like thiswithout any extra words, symbols, or variationsensures it meets the format requirements.

Leave the Email Body Empty: Adding anything in the body of the email would actually go against the standardized format. So, its best to leave it blank, as the instructions imply that only the subject line needs to be used.

Benefits for Data Management: Sticking to this exact pattern makes it easier to process and organize the responses. With everyones emails in the same format, its simple to automate things like sorting and tracking, which helps both students and mentors stay organized.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_19
created: 2024-10-29 11:21:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:21:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Standardized Answer Concept:
In this document, a standardized answer refers to responses that follow a specific, pre-determined format for consistency across sections. These answers are structured to align with set guidelines or templates and follow a systematic approach in presenting information, which includes:

Uniform Structure: Every parameter discussed in the "Automation of Parameters" chapter is presented with the same fields: Data Source, Automation Tool, Automation Method, and Optimization Ideas. This approach standardizes the document and simplifies analysis.

Clear Terminology: Using the same technical terms and structure for each automated parameter enhances readability, reduces ambiguity, and makes the content easy to compare across different sections. For instance, all references to "Automation Tool" or "Data Source" would be uniform, rather than using varying terms for similar concepts.

Concise Detail and Relevant Information Only: Each answer includes only information directly relevant to automation, minimizing extraneous details. Screenshots, code snippets, and explanations are given in a manner that supports clarity, rather than overwhelming the reader with unrelated content.

Such a standardized format would make it straightforward for readers to locate specific details about each automated parameter without sifting through inconsistent information or structure.

Non-Standardized Answer Possibilities
In contrast, a non-standardized answer would vary in format, style, and level of detail, potentially resulting in responses that:

Lack a Uniform Structure: Responses might differ from section to section in how they present data sources, tools, and methods. For instance, one automated parameter might start with a general description, while another immediately dives into specific details, leading to inconsistency across sections.

Use Inconsistent Terminology: Different technical terms might be used interchangeably (e.g., using monitoring software in one section and automation tool in another). This inconsistency can make it harder for readers to follow and compare the information.

Include Varying Levels of Detail: Some sections might have extensive narrative explanations, while others are brief or omit specific technical steps altogether. This could lead to a document that feels uneven in its presentation and lacks the concise focus needed for easy analysis.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_21
created: 2024-10-29 11:25:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:25:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Non-standardized answers are responses that stray from the exact format given in the instructions. Some common ways this happens include:

Adding Extra Information: For example, writing something like thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr - I plan to submit earlier if possible. While well-meaning, this additional info isnt part of the standard format.
Rephrasing the Subject Line: Saying something like I will submit my thesis in April 2025 instead of using the exact wording doesnt follow the template, which makes it harder to track.
Listing Multiple Options: Including more than one possible date or other variations creates inconsistencies.
Since these responses dont fit the strict format, they cant be picked up by automated scripts, making it tricky to analyze and slowing down the whole process.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_10
created: 2024-10-29 11:27:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:27:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Subject: Thesis Deadline Info

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that I plan to submit my thesis by [month] [year]. I'm working hard on it and really appreciate your help along the way.

I'll make sure to keep in touch and check in on the MS Teams group. If I need anything, Ill definitely reach out!

Thanks for everything!

Best,
[Full Name]
[Neptun Code]

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_10
created: 2024-10-29 11:28:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:28:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline Information

Dear Professor [Last Name],

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to inform you that I planned thesis submission deadline is [month] [year]. I am currently making steady progress on my project and appreciate the mentoring support you offer.

I will ensure that all communication follows the required format and timelines. I look forward to participating in the MS Teams group and will reach out if I need further consultations.

Thank you for your guidance and support!

Best regards,
[Your Full Name]
[NEPTUN Code]

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-29 11:32:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:32:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
And finally, what is the ideal length for an standardized answer? What kind of potential answers (existing strings) are really existing as ideal (standardized) answers?

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-29 11:37:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:37:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
IT-experts must be always ready to deliver one/more examples in case of each sentence (not relevant from which source) having parts where generalized phenomena are mentioned! A final exam can be managed based on god examples in case of each question! Without good examples, the generalized (seemingly professional) gossiping (see ChatGPT) is not really valuable...

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_2
created: 2024-10-29 11:46:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:46:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
For the Standardized Answer:
Email Subject Line:
thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr

Email Body:
(Leave this blank as instructed)

Future Emails and MS Teams Messages:
Make sure to include your full name and NEPTUN code in all communications, like this:

Example Signature:
Best regards,
[Your Full Name]
[Your NEPTUN Code]

This approach keeps everything organized, makes data gathering easier for the mentor, and shows that youve followed the instructions carefully.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_2
created: 2024-10-29 11:47:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:47:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Non-Standardized Answer for Example
Incorrect Subject Line:

Thesis deadline - April 2026
Adding anything extra here, like deadline or changing the format slightly, would go against the exact wording the mentor asked for.
Adding Text in the Email Body:

If you add anything in the body, even just Hi, heres my deadline, it would break the instruction to leave the body empty.
Leaving Out Name or NEPTUN Code:

For future messages, if you forget to add your full name or NEPTUN code, it might make it harder for the mentor to keep track of everyones responses.
These examples show how small changes can throw off the standardization theyre looking for.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-29 11:50:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:50:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: It is a great pleasure to see example-oriented and parallel context-dependent entries!
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-29 12:02:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 11:12:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Question: Is this an example for the not-standardized case or rather is it a semi-standardized answer? The answer for this particular question is only correct, if it is possible to filter the relevant information units. This "filtering" could even be managed with involving ChatGPT?!
(estimated time for an appropriate entry: 30 minutes)

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_5
created: 2024-10-29 12:03:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 12:03:00.000000
subject: Re: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Subject: Project Submission Timeline  [Month] [Year]

Dear Mentor,

I am writing to confirm my planned submission deadline for the project as [month] [year]. I am fully engaged in the work and intend to utilize the available mentorship opportunities.

I will ensure all communications are formatted correctly and sent within the required timeframes. Additionally, I will be active in the MS Teams group and will reach out if further guidance is needed.

Thank you for your support and attention.

Best regards,
[Full Name]
[Student ID / NEPTUN Code]

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-29 12:10:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 12:10:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Is this a real/ideal definition of the standardized answer? What is the ideal length of a standardized answer based on the entry above?

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_7
created: 2024-10-29 12:37:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 12:37:00.000000
subject: Re: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Subject: Thesis Deadline Info

Dear prof,

My submission deadline is [month] [year].
I'll make sure to inform you on my steps.
Regards,
[Full Name]
[Neptun Code]

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_17
created: 2024-10-29 13:44:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 13:44:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
In the context of an educational thread, a standardized answer could, for example, include:

Clear restatement of the question or prompt.
Structured organization, with an introduction, main points, and conclusion.
Consistent use of terminology relevant to the document or field.
Use of specific references from the provided document to support the answer.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_17
created: 2024-10-29 13:49:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 13:49:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline - [Month] [Year]

Hey there,

Just a quick note to let you know Im on track to submit my thesis in [month] [year]. Im grinding through the work and totally down to use those mentoring options you mentioned.

Ill stick to the communication rules and be active in the MS Teams group. If I hit any bumps, Ill reach out!

Thanks for having my back!

Cheers,
[Full Name]
[NEPTUN Code]

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_22
created: 2024-10-29 14:38:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 14:38:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
A standardized answer is a type of response that is designed in certain modalities and set guidelines to make sure there is coherence as well as clarity. It is often employed in tests and formal interactions, making it possible to compare and evaluate responses uniformly and objectively across the board.

The term standardized answer, in relation to the document in question, means any reply which answers the query used in the document provided, in the manner advised by the mentor for proper communication. In this case, the standardized answer would involve emailing the specified email address, for example, ptlkiszl@my-x.hu and the submission deadlines format in the title as:

Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline = [Your Chosen Option]

This ensures that students communications are uniform and the responses and data management are easy for the mentor and the professor. The standardized answer stresses submission of full names together with NEPTUN codes so as to keep the communication system in order throughout the semester which in turn saves time and prevents overlapping of necessary information. The guidelines do not only show unhealthy emphasis on formality of communication, they also demonstrate the ability of the student to meet the requirements which is very pertinent especially during the thesis work.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_22
created: 2024-10-29 14:41:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 14:41:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Non-standardized answers are those that are not in the required format as instructed in the highlighted document. For example:
Informal Email Responses: Reacting through an informal email, students may not submit the required subject format like:

Subject: My Thesis Submission Deadline

Body: Hi, I had just wanted to let you know that I intend to submit my thesis in April 2025. Thank you!

The answer scaffolds, making it difficult for the mentor to order and interpret the provided replies.

Deficiency of Essential Information: Another possibility is absence of crucial information like their full name or the NEPTUN code in the response:

Subject: Thesis Due Date = 15th April 2023

Body: I am planning to.

The proposed submission date is there in the reply, but such a response leaves out the vital details that the mentor needs.

Such non-standardized answers may be problematic by creating ambiguity, making it hard to follow up on response, creating potential for communication failures, it points to the fact of the need to adhere to Standardized procedures for effective communication.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_16
created: 2024-10-29 19:23:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 19:23:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
A standardized answer includes precise identification (name, NEPTUN code) and adherence to communication formats required by the professor, in my case will be thesis progress, Microsoft Teams and email. So be make sure to write the email precisely write the Subject line= which would be "Submission deadline" .

Body: In this section, I have to write clear opinions and relevant questions. Start with a brief introduction if necessary, followed by main reason to message. Keep sentences short and focused. Ensure details are specific and organized logically.
Closing: End with a polite closing (e.g., Best regards=In my case) and include full name and NEPTUN code.
Using proper salutation is going to be more formal and giving formal signal to the person I am going to send.

Following clear organized structure of email would be more easily to understand and would be easily to answer my email.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_3
created: 2024-10-29 19:31:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 19:31:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Standardized answer is an answer directly focused on the question without unnecessary pleasantries and elaborations. For example, in this situation:
Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline = ..............

(Full Name)
(Neptune Code).
Following that its ideal length would be formatted by only three lines including the subject.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_3
created: 2024-10-29 19:40:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 19:48:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
A not-standardized answer would cover the answers that did not follow the instructions, writing full emails including greetings, explanations, and unnecessary details.

For example,

My thesis submission deadline is = 2025 ( not precise, did not follow instruction )

Dear Professor, I would like to submit my thesis in April 2025 or May 2025. Also I wonder if there is anything I need to do.


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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_9
created: 2024-10-29 20:14:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 20:14:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
In my opinion, The ideal length for a standardized answer typically ranges between 50 to 200 words. This range allows enough space to cover the answer thoroughly while staying concise and focused. However, a shorter answer (even one sentence) could suffice if the question or task is simple. Ideal types of standardized answers include:
1. Single-Word/Phrase  For simple responses like "Yes" or "Approved."
2. Bullet Points  For listing steps or key items.
3. Short Paragraph  When brief context is needed.
4. Templates  For repeat questions, with fillable fields for specifics.
These formats ensure clarity, consistency, and relevance in responses.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_4
created: 2024-10-29 21:32:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 21:32:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Thank you for your feedback.

To answer your question, my initial response aimed to be a practical example of a standardized answer rather than an ideal definition. However, upon reflection, an ideal standardized answer would be even more concise, focusing only on the essential points without added details. This keeps the communication clear, uniform, and easy to process, aligning with the expectations in the document.

Regarding length, I would suggest that an ideal standardized answer should be just long enough to convey necessary informationtypically one or two sentences. In this case, that would mean including only the thesis submission deadline in the required format, without additional context or greetings.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-10-30 01:57:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 01:57:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
For example Q:What is the risk level of remote worker 5?
Standardized answer
Remote Worker 5 Risk Level: 540 (Standardized formate,Important information,No extra details and easy to use for automate script)
Non-Standardized answer
Remote Worker 5 is the higher facing the risk level of 543, but this could be change with more data (Contain extra and non-important information hard to use for automate script)

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-30 05:08:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:08:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
For such a question (see: What is the risk level of remote worker 5?), there is just in cases standardized answers, if the asking person defined already in advance rules for standardizing (see demo0 basis-email). The COCO engines (STD, Y0, MCM, etc.) offer API-like connection possibilities based on C-URL-calls. A C-URL-oriented versions of the well-known browser-oriented COCO-engines (delivering complex answers for each job) send only parts of the complex outputs (e.g. only estimation values: https://miau.my-x.hu/bprof/2021/curl.docx). It is a big difference between standardization and interpretation. The complex COCO-outputs are just values (incl. estimations). The derivation of the meaning of all these outputs does need special interpretation modules or even COCO-chains using new and newer OAM generated in the interpretation modules.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-30 05:13:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:13:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Each interpretation is interesting, BUT we simply need the length (a single number e.g. between 0 und 100) of the ideal/standardized answer. The customers/project partners are quasi not interested to know about our background interpretations for a solution, till the solution as such is not presented...

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-30 05:22:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:22:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
We need no further textual interpretations before the length of the standardized answer is not given as a very exact number! A question (e.g. asking for the length of the standardized answer) may not interpret more complex, than it is really needed (c.f. Occam's razor). We are working on this simple question (needing just a simple number as answer) and we do still not have this asked number - since days (although the real complexity does not expect a whole minute). Would you (as stakeholder/project owner of a project) really finance your experts with this low efficiency day-by-day?

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-30 05:23:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:23:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Is this example not even an example for a semi-standardized answer?
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-30 05:30:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:30:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
We do need the exact length of the standardized answer - first of all! And only after the presenting this number: the argumentations and all the existing versions of the standardized answers. On the other hand: if the question (expecting a standardized answer) is sent as email to email-adresses being stored for the affected person in a database (c.f. Neptun), why it is necessary to have names and neptun-codes? What is the key information being capable to identify the particular person? This a a new and central question in this thread! (estimated time for answering: 30 minutes - because the problem as such can be identified in more entries and all these previous entries should be identified before answering...)

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-30 05:36:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:36:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Is this interpretation acceptable, if we are searching for a single/simple number for the length of the standardized answer? New question in this thread: Why it is important for system planning challenges to know in advance the lengths of a standardized answer if the number of person is already given who have to send an answer? (estimated time for an appropriate entry: 15 minutes) Is it important, that a person may send more (standardized or not-standardized) answers? If yes, why? If not, why? (estimated time for an appropriate entry: 15 minutes)

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-30 05:42:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:42:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
What is your opinion about following definition about the really not-standardized answers (if we know, that we have the 3th category in the classification issue: semi-standardized answer): A really not-standardized answer let not filter/identify all needed components of the standardized answer through artistic fog in the textual realisation (c.f. quasi encrypting - artistic cryptograhy instead of following intructions about the standardization (c.f. functional analphabetism, arbitrary self-realisation, etc.).

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created: 2024-10-30 05:49:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:49:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Is somebody capable to explain, why the length of the standardized answer still not given? This thread is a massive demonstration for focus-less communication?! There are clear questions (see: length, argumentation, whole example-set) even through multiple entries. ChatGPT (the gossiping machine) does have a kind of similar behaviour: instead to produce a focused output, each associative elements will be offered. BUT why? Who does need such kind a communication? (this fog-building strategy is surely not needed in a final exam-situation).

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created: 2024-10-30 05:55:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 05:55:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
If a new example is publishing, it is important to define, what are the new aspects compared to the previous ones? If there are no new aspects in the planned "new" example, then this entry is not needed from point of view of the thread. Such an entry let increase the appropriate statistics (KPI), but a lot of similar entries makes a process just slower, they need more technical resources - for no relevant impacts.

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created: 2024-10-30 06:04:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
This interpretation is one of the potential existing ones. Do have this interpretation special advantages? Where/when seems to be relevant such a new interpretation? The basic situation does expect a standardzed answer = an ideal answer quasi with the less and less characters for a correct information processing. The information processing via email does not need a form, it does not need a database, it makes possible to filter the emails based on the subject, especially based on the first (common) part of the standardized answer in order to identify (later even with source-codes-support) the person-dependent key information units. New question: What could be the most shortened standardized answer? (length, definition, example-set)? (estimated time for an appropriate entry: 30 minutes)

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created: 2024-10-30 06:13:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Special task/question: Is somebody capable of creating text-examples for totally not-standardized answers, where a human can filter/identify/decode the needed information units, BUT a ChatGPT-version can not manage the same challenge?! (estimated time for an appropriate entry: 30 minutes - where a ChatGPT-based documentation does always need a prompt, the ChatGPT-answer, and the interpretations of the author in format of a WORD-file with an active change-tracking layer for theauthor's opinion (c.f. like in case of the final theses where the ChatGPT-like engines must definitely be used in different useful forms.)

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created: 2024-10-30 06:15:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Why this complexity? What is the core information? Why should be processed more than really needed?
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created: 2024-10-30 06:20:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
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Is it possible to deliver the number of the ideal length in case of the standardized answers based on all these interpretation layers? Or especially these complex interpretation makes impossible to deliver a focused answer conserning the n-times asked standard-length?

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created: 2024-10-30 13:00:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
1. Length: Around 2030 characters for core information.
2. Definition: 510 words for a direct response.
3. Example Tags: 23 keywords for quick context.

For example: Project report
Dear XY

My Project will be done in 2026 nov.

Sincerely
XY

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created: 2024-10-30 13:24:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
For example, my first thought was to simply give him a slang but that doesn't work, so I asked it if it can read hieroglyph so when I sent him the message turns out he can't decipher it but we can with the help of this website https://discoveringegypt.com/hieroglyphic-typewriter/

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created: 2024-10-30 13:37:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Thank you for clarifying, Professor Pitlik.

Based on your feedback, I would suggest that the ideal length for a standardized answer in this context is approximately 15-20 characters, assuming were only including the essential information like the deadline format (e.g., "2025 Apr").

Best regards,

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
I think,an ideal answer should be around 30-50 words. This length keeps the message clear and to the point.


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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-10-31 08:41:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
We are searching one single exact number (length of the standardized answer / unit=character-number, integer, n>0. The solution is therefore not an interval. The proof of this number is the argumentation (rules for derivation) and the set of the potential answers covering the rules and havig exact the expected/calculated ideal length.

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created: 2024-10-31 08:42:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163393
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created: 2024-10-31 08:43:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163393
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created: 2024-10-31 08:46:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Relevant, new aspect: the definition of a standard string should define not only a length, the content as such, but also a kind of code page for character encoding...

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created: 2024-10-31 08:48:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: For each general interpretation, it is always important to define a very clear example...
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
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All these backgrounds are relevant for finalizing the length of the ideal answer! We do need one single number!

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: We do need now the exact number of the length - after all these background interpretation...
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created: 2024-10-31 08:58:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 08:58:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Helpful remark: in our particular case, a standardized answer should have an ideal length. Without this number, without its derivation rules for this number and without the set of each potntial string (answer) covering the derivation rules, this thread (incl. sub-threads is an unsuccessul performance, where the project owner may not pay for the IT-experts, not a cent...

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-10-31 09:05:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 09:05:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Why may we interpret this particular (or each other) entry as a new relevant information? Why it is better, than a randomly generated string? A randonly generated reaction/answer/item/entry is always the benchmark in order to be capable of prooving, whether an entry is relevant or just a useless new record... Parallel, based on each entry, it is to expect, that we can add new relevant entries: but which is a new follow-action entry-by-entry? Or an entry is relevant, if a thread can be closed: e.g. we are seraching for the ideal length of the standardized answer since a lot of days, where the expected time for deriving the expected number should be measured in minutes!

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-31 09:08:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 09:36:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Please, deliver a very clear example(s): what is a semi-standardized (filterable/excludable) additional information in the subject-line? What is an additional information in the subject line, making the automation quasi totally impossible? (estimated time for each example: 15 minutes)

raw_payload:
{"id": 163402, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163272, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-31T09:08:00", "modified": "2024-10-31T09:36:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "Please, deliver a very clear example(s): what is a semi-standardized (filterable/excludable) additional information in the subject-line? What is an additional information in the subject line, making the automation quasi totally impossible? (estimated time for each example: 15 minutes)", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 38, "charcount": 248}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-31 09:34:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 09:34:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
We do need the exact number of the ideal length, it means, please search for the keyword "number" within this HTML-page and please, interpret all the affected entries! (estimated time for generating an overview in order to derive the expected number, finally: 30 minutes)

raw_payload:
{"id": 163403, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163277, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-31T09:34:00", "modified": "2024-10-31T09:34:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "We do need the exact number of the ideal length, it means, please search for the keyword \"number\" within this HTML-page and please, interpret all the affected entries! (estimated time for generating an overview in order to derive the expected number, finally: 30 minutes)", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 44, "charcount": 228}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-31 09:35:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 09:35:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Estimated time for each example-definition: 15 minutes
raw_payload:
{"id": 163404, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163123, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-31T09:35:00", "modified": "2024-10-31T09:35:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "Estimated time for each example-definition: 15 minutes", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 7, "charcount": 48}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_17
created: 2024-10-31 13:48:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 13:48:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
How about EBCDIC (Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code)

The Length is it has a length of 256 possible characters (2^8). However, it doesnt utilize all of these in a straightforward way like ASCII or Unicode.

Content: Specifies the exact characters or symbols in the string, including any special characters, numbers, or punctuation.

Example: kávézó üdvözl?
Length: This string has 13 characters:

7 for "kávézó " (meaning "café")
1 space
6 for "üdvözl" (the beginning of the word "üdvözlöm," meaning "welcome")
1 for "?" (coffee)

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-31 14:11:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 14:11:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
We do need one single number for the question concerning the ideal length, and the set of the potential examples (having in all cases exactly the number of the length of the strings, what we are searching for, and we do need the derivation rules for this length-parameter too...

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_17
created: 2024-10-31 18:29:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 18:29:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
To determine an ideal single length for a standard string that includes diverse content and encoding possibilities, we need a balanced number that can comfortably hold a wide variety of text types (like multi-language phrases, accented characters, and emojis) while also being compact enough to prevent excessive length.

raw_payload:
{"id": 163418, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163410, "userid": 45293, "userfullname": "student_17", "created": "2024-10-31T18:29:00", "modified": "2024-10-31T18:29:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "To determine an ideal single length for a standard string that includes diverse content and encoding possibilities, we need a balanced number that can comfortably hold a wide variety of text types (like multi-language phrases, accented characters, and emojis) while also being compact enough to prevent excessive length.", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 48, "charcount": 273}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-31 21:47:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 21:47:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Length = ?
raw_payload:
{"id": 163420, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163418, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-31T21:47:00", "modified": "2024-10-31T21:47:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "Length = ?", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 3, "charcount": 8}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_17
created: 2024-10-31 22:10:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 22:10:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Length = 256 characters
This length can support most common uses, including multi-language support, special characters, and emojis, while maintaining reasonable storage and processing efficiency.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-31 22:34:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 22:34:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997
We are searching for this particular challenge the number of the length.
Self-check (expected): please, list all potential versions of the standardized answer-options exactly with the same (expexted) length!

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_4
created: 2024-10-31 23:14:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 23:14:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Dear Professor Pitlik,

Thank you for your feedback. Here is my revised response based on the expectations:

Ideal Length of Standardized Answer: 25 characters.

Derivation Rules: The length of 25 characters is ideal because it includes all essential information in a consistent format:

Structure: The text "thesis submission deadline =" plus the date in "YYYY MMM" format.
Consistency and Efficiency: Each answer is concise yet comprehensive, with no unnecessary information, allowing for uniformity in automated processing.
Set of Potential Ideal Answers:

"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr"
Thank you for the guidance, and I hope this aligns more closely with your expectations.

Best regards,
Munkhjargal Ariunbold

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-31 23:34:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 23:34:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: Helpful picture:
raw_payload:
{"id": 163425, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163424, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-31T23:34:00", "modified": "2024-10-31T23:34:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "Helpful picture:\r\n\r\n", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 2, "charcount": 15}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-31 23:35:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-31 23:35:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: "HOSSZ" = LEN()
raw_payload:
{"id": 163426, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163425, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-10-31T23:35:00", "modified": "2024-10-31T23:35:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "\"HOSSZ\" = LEN()", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 3, "charcount": 13}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-11-01 01:48:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-01 01:48:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
For example, a common reply can be: "Thank you for your question. We got your request and will reply in two business days" .This answer has exact lenght 116 characters, which is short and to the point. When sending such answers by email, it is also necessary to include names and Neptun codes of people in the database. This helps us identify each person correctly and avoid confusion with others who might have similar names. Keeping accurate records ensures that messages go to the right people and makes the process more efficient.

raw_payload:
{"id": 163427, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163368, "userid": 44444, "userfullname": "student_15", "created": "2024-11-01T01:48:00", "modified": "2024-11-01T01:48:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "For example, a common reply can be: \"Thank you for your question. We got your request and will reply in two business days\" .This answer has exact lenght 116 characters, which is short and to the point. When sending such answers by email, it is also necessary to include names and Neptun codes of people in the database. This helps us identify each person correctly and avoid confusion with others who might have similar names. Keeping accurate records ensures that messages go to the right people and makes the process more efficient.", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 92, "charcount": 443}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_19
created: 2024-11-01 03:00:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-01 03:00:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
While it's possible to determine an ideal length for standardized answers based on the interpretation layers in the document, a flexible approach is often more effective. By structuring each parameterData Source, Automation Tool, Automation Method, and Optimization Ideaswith concise, relevant details, an approximate length of 58 sentences (or around 100150 words) can serve as a practical guideline. This structure typically allows for clarity without unnecessary detail, balancing thoroughness and brevity.

However, the complexity inherent in some interpretations may occasionally necessitate a longer answer. Strict adherence to a single standard length could oversimplify responses, especially for parameters requiring nuanced explanation. Thus, while a general target length is achievable, allowing for flexibility based on complexity ensures that each answer remains clear and comprehensive. This approach provides consistency while adapting to the specific needs of each parameter.

raw_payload:
{"id": 163428, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163376, "userid": 46678, "userfullname": "student_19", "created": "2024-11-01T03:00:00", "modified": "2024-11-01T03:00:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "While it's possible to determine an ideal length for standardized answers based on the interpretation layers in the document, a flexible approach is often more effective. By structuring each parameter\u0097Data Source, Automation Tool, Automation Method, and Optimization Ideas\u0097with concise, relevant details, an approximate length of 5\u00968 sentences (or around 100\u0096150 words) can serve as a practical guideline. This structure typically allows for clarity without unnecessary detail, balancing thoroughness and brevity.\r\n\r\nHowever, the complexity inherent in some interpretations may occasionally necessitate a longer answer. Strict adherence to a single standard length could oversimplify responses, especially for parameters requiring nuanced explanation. Thus, while a general target length is achievable, allowing for flexibility based on complexity ensures that each answer remains clear and comprehensive. This approach provides consistency while adapting to the specific needs of each parameter.", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 138, "charcount": 860}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-11-01 07:27:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-01 07:27:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163425
raw_payload:
{"id": 163429, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163427, "userid": 34004, "userfullname": "professor_1", "created": "2024-11-01T07:27:00", "modified": "2024-11-01T07:27:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "Re: T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163425", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 1, "charcount": 65}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-11-01 07:35:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-01 07:35:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163425
Whether all these entries (without the expected number of the ideal length) are products of the ChatGPT? If yes, it is necessary to let us know, it is necessary to have a sign about this fact. Please, in case of each entry, where the ChatGPT was used in direct or indirect form, make a new entry about the how-used information (estimated time: 30 minutes). Independet of the yes/not-situation: it is necessary, that someboy make an experiment with the ChatGPT and try to enforce even the expected length here and now(estimated time: min. 1 hour).

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-11-01 10:04:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-01 10:12:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
A number, ideally within 0 to 100 characters, as you suggested. This would likely vary depending on context and usage but should be concise enough for clarity without unnecessary verbosity.

raw_payload:
{"id": 163432, "discussion": 62886, "parent": 163399, "userid": 47139, "userfullname": "student_6", "created": "2024-11-01T10:04:00", "modified": "2024-11-01T10:12:00", "mailed": 1, "subject": "T\u00e1rgy: Re: T\u00e1rgy: Standardized communication (demo0)", "message": "A number, ideally within 0 to 100 characters, as you suggested. This would likely vary depending on context and usage but should be concise enough for clarity without unnecessary verbosity.", "messageformat": 2, "messagetrust": 0, "attachment": 0, "totalscore": 0, "mailnow": 0, "deleted": 0, "privatereplyto": 0, "privatereplytofullname": null, "wordcount": 30, "charcount": 160}


dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-11-01 10:19:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-01 10:19:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
The rationale here would address why this specific number was chosen based on readability, response speed, or relevance for the intended audience. For example, if 50 characters is the ideal, the justification could include how shorter responses tend to improve comprehension and are more direct in communication.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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modified: 2024-11-01 10:24:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163425 <--Why it this item such as important on the way to the expected number of the ideal length (c.f. KNUTH:-)?! (We do not need the magic of words, we do need operationalized/operationalisable communication.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-11-01 10:33:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-01 10:33:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
let's take this example:

""Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline - Februar 2026

Dear Mentor,

I would like to inform you that my planned thesis submission deadline is Februar 2026. I am actively working on the project and will make full use of the mentoring opportunities you provide.

I will ensure that all communication is carried out in the appropriate format and within the required timeframes. Please expect my participation in the MS Teams group as well, and I will reach out if I need any further consultations or assistance.

Thank you for your attention and support!

Best regards,
Kiss Andras
A4BCDE""

Its specified length is 96 characters.

Generally, a formal, well-organized email message I write typically falls between 100-150 words, depending on the level of detail and precision required.
The example message I provided is approximately 80-100 words (96), which I believe is ideal for a simple yet informative response.

Why is that?

The length of my response depends on how detailed I choose to make the message. If I keep it concise and to the point, it will be shorter, while adding more details naturally increases the length.

Accuracy and clarity: By writing precisely and clearly, I help the reader understand the main points without unnecessary information or repetition. This means that precise wording can reduce the required character count while keeping the message complete and appropriate.

In summary, a formal, standard-length message I aim for usually falls between 80-150 words, influenced by the amount of information I include and the quality of my expression.

But this can vary. If the Professor only, I emphasize ONLY, asks for my name, date and Neptun code, then it can be very short. Ex: 39 characters that I mentioned.

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created: 2024-11-01 10:39:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
In this example, this count everything: spaces, special characters, commas, periods, equal signs, etc.  basically, everything.

If we count my example like this, it can be about 582 ( I also checked in Excel) words. Because we count spaces and all other characters.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
If we consider the length of a standard response while counting spaces, punctuation marks, and all other characters, it would typically fall between 200-300 characters. This range is sufficient to provide a meaningful yet concise answer that conveys the essence without delving into unnecessary details. BUT if we were to format our response nicely, such as breaking it into paragraphs, using bullet points, or highlighting certain sections, the length of the response would typically fall between 300-500 characters (or more).

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-11-01 16:21:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Its specified length is 96 characters vs. Thesis Submission Deadline - Februar 2026 <--Confuse or consistent? More (potential) examples? New question for a new number: We are searching for the number of the potential ideal strings (standardized answers) based on the demo0-documentation! What is this number being relevant for the further planning activities? What is the derivation rules for this number? (estimated time: 15 minutes)

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163425 - Is it really impossible to derive the exact result of the presented Excel-formula at all? :-) What kind of help/support is still needed to have the expected number of the ideal length? Please, do not forget the also expected self-check = the whole set of all potential standardized answers: c.f. second expected number about the volume of the compinatorial space of the potential ideal answers (exactly in case of the particular challenge)...

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
It is possible to get the exact result from the Excel formula, but if the formula is complex with many combinations, checking all possible answers can be challenging. To find the ideal result, its important to break down the formula and verify all potential combinations.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
It is possible to get the exact result from the Excel formula, but if the formula is complex with many combinations, checking all possible answers can be challenging. To find the ideal result, its important to break down the formula and verify all potential combinations. <--PLEASE, DO IT FINALLY! ??

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
The exact length of the standardized answer "thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr" is 34 characters(5 words). This length is determined by using the LEN() function in excel such as =LEN(G66) in the picture.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-11-02 08:29:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
We do search again and again for the set of the potential strings with the ideal length (see: number of items in the combinatorial space + list of these items)

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-11-02 08:30:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-02 08:30:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message: "KÖZÉP" = MID() (c.f. https://excelneked.hu/2020/01/08/excel-fuggvenyek-angolul-es-magyarul/)
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-11-02 08:33:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-02 08:33:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Parallel to the magic-of-words-effects (see riskily interpretable text-streams), we have to communicate more and more based on more massive pseudo codes- following the KNUTH-principle: https://miau.my-x.hu/miau2009/index_tki.php3?_filterText0=*knuth

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-11-02 22:10:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
If I understood the task correctly, a standardized answer is a predetermined formatting style for responses pertaining to multiple different interactions or communications that aid in providing concise, organized, and most importantly consistent transfers of information. A standardized answer concerning the highlighted document would be the section in the main body that reads: "All emails, submissions, and requests made by you must contain clear data with full names and neptun codes". This statement sets the basis for the information required in a standardized answer, thus; all of our communications should contain this information at the very minimum. Full names and neptun codes are sets of information that will not change regardless of the topic, task, or other information, so it would make sense to combine these into one signature as stated in the document. The clear data, however, would change based on the information or current task and would need to be as concise as possible to retain as much useful and important information as possible while still remaining clear and understandable.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-11-02 23:24:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-02 23:24:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
Seemingly correct text-elements, but without any operative value: we do need the asked numbers ísee before) und just behind these exact answers (and not instead of exactness) may we write more explanation, remarks, etc. Planning is a lot of commands for executive partners. Long text-elements can not be interpreted as commands. Commands are short and precise phenomena (numbers, proofs, figures - pseudo-code-like approaches).

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-11-04 10:02:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-04 10:02:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Standardized communication (demo0)
message:
But I wrote that the number of words is only 96, if you count all the characters, it is much more. In this case, we can talk about hundreds of characters in terms of length. (If we count my example like this, it can be about 582 ( I also checked in Excel) words)

Examples of Potential Standardized Responses:

Simple Confirmation

"Subject: Meeting Confirmation
Dear [Mentor's Name],
I confirm our meeting scheduled for [Date, Time]. Please let me know if any details change.
Best regards, [Your Name, Neptun Code]"
Thesis Progress Update

"Subject: Thesis Progress Update
Dear Mentor,
Im making steady progress on my thesis and am on track for my planned February 2026 submission. Let me know if any additional materials are required for our next review.
Regards, [Your Name, Neptun Code]"
Request for Feedback

"Subject: Request for Feedback on Thesis Draft
Dear Mentor,
Ive completed a draft of my thesis. I would appreciate your feedback on the content and structure. Im available to discuss at your earliest convenience.
Best, [Your Name, Neptun Code]"

"What is this number being relevant for further planning activities?"

Explanation: Standardizing responses:

Saves Time: Having a set of pre-drafted responses reduces the time you spend composing similar messages.
Improves Consistency: Standardization ensures clarity and professionalism in all interactions, which can help maintain a clear communication style with your mentor.
Enhances Organization: You can focus on planning and tracking progress rather than drafting each message individually.

What is the derivation rule for this number?

Example Derivation Rule:

Identify Key Topics: Look for common communication themes in your mentor interactions, such as thesis updates, meeting requests, and feedback queries.
Frequency of Use: Prioritize responses based on how often each topic arises.
Adjust for Specific Requirements: Include any specialized responses your mentor or the documentation emphasizes.

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Please, fill the test questionnaire immediately: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967

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According to the document, standardized answers must include:

Ideal Length: Though the document notes that the exact "ideal" length is yet to be defined, standardized answers are expected to fall within certain parameters to maintain uniformity.
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Variable Length: Unlike standardized answers, non-standardized answers do not have a defined or consistent length, allowing respondents to elaborate or keep their answers brief based on their preferences or interpretation.
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EXPECTATIONS & EVALUATIONS

1. THERE WERE TEMPORARY ACCESS RIGHTS PROBLEMS & NOBODY SENT ANY EMAILS ABOUT THEM TO THE ORGANIZERS! = :-(

2. THERE WERE NEPTUN-EMAILS SENT TO YOU ABOUT THE TASKS IN MOODLE & NOBODY DID ANYTHING IMMEDIATELY! = :-(

3. THERE IS AN EVALUATION SHEET FROM NOW ON & ??? = ???

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4. THERE WAS A PARAMETER BEING CAPABLE OF STOPPING THE USING OF THE PREFERRED LANGUAGE & NOBODY SIGNALISED THIS PROBLEM = :-(

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WORTH KNOWING ABOUT IT:
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/report/summary/index.php?courseid=17814&forumid=29927

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message: it says: error/Unable to find forum with cmid 29927. I can't open it.
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This error message is a kind of conspirative error message, in order to cover the real problem: Students do not have any permission for the reports about their comparative activities (see: Number of discussions posted / Number of replies posted / Number of attachments / Number of views / Word count / Character count / Earliest post / Most recent post / Export posts) - but this report (log-database) is existing:(https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/report/summary/index.php?courseid=17814&forumid=29927)

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On the one hand: A lot of confirmation emails (a few of them even standardized) is already available. The tasks are therefore well-known. On the other hand: the activity level is the same as before = low! The special chance/challenge (see last Neptun-email from me) is a real chance, but only for Students, really wanting to cooperate...

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The entire evaluation challenges (see Quasi Exam I-II-III) as such is a second interim report. Conclusions: relevant facts about the professional thruths (c.f. https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62981#p164097) seems to be unimportant for the naive ranking processes. The scores needing an aggregated value were only processed based on a totally naive approach: average and/or total scores. Planning (and in general decision making) does need a KNUTH-oriented (source-code-compatible) concept about the scalable Goodness of potential objects. Without a not-naive concept, the voting-like approaches lead never to the expected clarity.

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Tarantino: Pulp fiction (1994) - What scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo5jnBJvGUs
Please, never forget, that the most standarized answer can be very-very important...
A final thesis and the final exam ist a kind of what-scene: it is not recommended to be too arbitrary/instinctive - it is worth of being question-oriented, standardization-driven...
:-)

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Less extreme didactic interpretation about the needed focusing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes,_no,_black,_white

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subject: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Please, read the follwowing document: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154996 (ca. 75 minutes)

Please, create at least one new entry within this thread (bubble/topic): why it is still not possible to create qualitative source codes immediately concerning the highlighted document above? (ca. 30 minutes)

Please, follow frequently the thread and please, comment the further entries of the other Students to yours and vice versa! (min. 120 minutes during the whole semester)


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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Sub-thread: Comments from point of view of the logical system plan
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It remains a challenge to immediately generate high-quality source code, especially when dealing with complex problems. This is often due to factors such as the quality of automation tools, the source data, and the integration of programming tools. More specifically, the complexity of writing code, optimization possibilities, and the variety of sources all contribute to the fact that a single piece of code is not always flawless or optimal right away.

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From the perspective of the logical system plan, the automation chapters should first thoroughly explain the Coco analysis, including its principles, methods used, and the results obtained. This ensures a solid foundation of understanding before proceeding to the automation steps. Detailing the automation of parameters and the relationship between the APIs and tools ensures the system operates consistently and efficiently. Exploring future automation possibilities logically supports the scalability of the system and highlights potential optimizations.

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From the perspective of the physical system plan, processing the data from Coco analysis may require significant computational resources, especially when dealing with large Excel files. Accurate data collection and storage are crucial for the later analysis of automated parameters. APIs and automation tools (such as SNMP, vnStat) require adequate hardware support and network connectivity to ensure the continuous provision of updated data. The physical components of the system include servers, network devices, and the software infrastructure used for data collection. These physical resources should be designed to handle future expansions and optimizations effectively.

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From the perspective of future system operation, it is important to ensure that the automation processes are sustainable and easily scalable. Future updates to APIs, such as SNMP or Windows Defender, must be considered to maintain compatibility with evolving technologies for automated parameter collection. The system should also allow for the integration of new automation tools as technology and cybersecurity threats develop. Future optimizations may involve the application of artificial intelligence for data analysis and the inclusion of additional automation tools to enhance efficiency.

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In the requirements analysis, it is essential to determine what data is needed for the Coco analysis and the collection of automated parameters. Data sources such as antivirus logs, IDS (Intrusion Detection System) logs, and network traffic statistics must be reliable and continuously available. The system must support seamless integration of various APIs, such as Windows Defender API or SNMP. Accurate and fast data processing, along with scalability and future expandability, are also key requirements. Additionally, cybersecurity concerns and potential optimization opportunities should be considered to enhance the systems efficiency.

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The observation are really good and the chall enge reminds to properly embed the APIs in the code. I have found few tools to optimize the code and will share it soon will look forward to your review

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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The real success in this Moodle-based process is: the particular Author (e.g. Annex:demo1) will be capable of planning the automation in a deep detailed form, where further Students should say: I could also create the necessary/needed codes without any further questions based on the finetuned planning documentations!

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It is not possible to instantly create perfect source codes because coding takes time and understanding. The project needs specific solutions, like user access or friendly interface, help section and correlation matrix based quality assurance module. These need to be planned carefully, tested, and adjusted to fit the projects needs, especially for automation. Since there are multiple steps, creating high quality codes right away is not easy task.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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The project owner (author of a final thesis) does need such kind of cooperation, where the recent status of the project could be finetuned in an unmisunderstoodable way. General interpretation (like chatGPT) are not relevant,, not in case of grading (see communication about the ideal length of the standardized answer, where only the excat number and its derivation rule is valuable). Triviale finetunings steps are e.g. corrections of the original/particular text version, and/or figures (e.g. flowcharts, other aspects of pseudocodes) being to integrate into the final thesis in a direct way, or quotes/citations with exact source data and argumentations about the why-it-is-important phenomena.... Please, do not forget: the aim is, to have a better planning documentation, where each Student have to say immediately: I-am-capable-of-programming-the-solution-without-any-further-questions! Therefore, only such kind of cooperation is relevant, where potential questions can be avoided through finetuning-oriented recommendations: e.g. arbitrary, aimless opinions as such are irrelevant...

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Please, check/interpret the show-parent-options in case of this entry! (https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62900#p163163)

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Please, check/interpret the show-parent-options in case of this entry! (https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62900#p163163)

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Please, evaluate each entry from point of view of the usefulness for the author of a final thesis: whether an entry can be involved in a direct way as finetuning effect into the final thesis or not? (Estimated time in this point of the thread-volume: 60 minutes). Evaluations can be written as new entries for each entry. Please, finetune each entry being still not matured enough for including into a final thesis. (Estimated time in this point of the thread-volume: 90 minutes). In case of evalutions and/or finetuning for a better evaluation, please, integrate the permalink of this entry into your entries in order to signalize the connection between task-oriented and reaction-oriented entries...

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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okay its mean it is important to focus on making targeted corrections to text and figures, integrating precise quotes and citations with clear sources. The goal is to create documentation so straightforward that each student can confidently implement the solution without needing further guidance. Thus, aimless opinions arent helpful; only direct, refinement-focused suggestions should be considered.but with finetunning it will be hard to ensure clarity and prevent future questions.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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"but with fine tuning it will be hard to ensure clarity and prevent future questions."<--How else then, if fine tuning is not a good workflow for avoiding question concerning a documentation?

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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I think ,If the documentation is clear and easy to use. Write in simple language, provide detailed steps and examples. Regularly update it based on user feedback to keep it helpful and clear can avoid questions concerning a documentation

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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The expectation is even this: everybody have to check, whether a documentation is detailed enough, clear enough, easy formulated enough... This is a deep analysis of each sentence/figure in the works of others: the finetuning is to realize in operative levels. The result of such a deep analyses is a very excact recommendation: please, change/delete/add a word, a sentence, a graphical element, etc. We are searching for such deep-levelled finetuning-items entry-by-entry - day-by-days...

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
The logical system plan involves several key considerations to ensure smooth and reliable automation. The primary focus is on data sourcing, automation tools, and optimization:

Data Source Relevance and Reliability:

For each automated parameter, it's essential to confirm that the data source (such as IDS logs or antivirus logs) is reliable and captures relevant information consistently. Without dependable data, automation could produce inaccurate or inconsistent results, which would undermine the automation process's purpose.
Tool Selection and Compatibility:

Selecting appropriate tools (e.g., vnStat, SNMP, antivirus APIs) that integrate smoothly with the system environment is crucial. Compatibility with the existing network setup and the ability to automate parameter collection without excessive manual intervention is a fundamental part of the system plan.
Automation Methods and Optimization:

The choice of automation methods (API calls, scheduled scripts) directly impacts efficiency. Optimizing these methods by reducing redundant checks and focusing on critical parameters can enhance performance, reduce computational load, and improve response times.
Error Handling and System Monitoring:

A well-designed logical system plan must include robust error handling and regular monitoring. For instance, if an API fails or a network issue disrupts data collection, the system should have mechanisms to retry or log errors, minimizing disruption and maintaining system reliability.
This logical system plan ensures that automated processes are accurate, efficient, and responsive to potential disruptions. Adopting these measures will help maintain data integrity and consistency across all automated parameters.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
When considering the automation experiments from the perspective of the physical system plan, several critical factors come into play:

Hardware Requirements and Capacity:

Since data collection and monitoring will run continuously, the physical system needs sufficient processing power and memory. If the system includes multiple tools like vnStat, SNMP, and antivirus APIs, we should ensure that it can handle simultaneous queries without significant lag or resource contention.
Network Infrastructure:

The physical system plan should account for a stable network connection to support real-time data transfer, especially if APIs or SNMP requests are made to external or remote devices. Network bandwidth must also be managed to prevent interference with other operational activities.
Storage Capacity and Data Retention:

Storing logs, historical data, and snapshots of automated parameters requires adequate storage. This is especially important for long-term analyses or audits. The storage system should be scalable and capable of retaining data for the duration specified by the projects requirements.
Redundancy and Backup Systems:

Redundancy in hardware (e.g., dual network interfaces, backup servers) can help ensure continuity in case of hardware failures. A backup system for critical data is also necessary to protect against data loss.
Physical Security:

As automation often involves sensitive data (e.g., threat logs from IDS or antivirus software), it is essential to consider physical security measures to prevent unauthorized access to the hardware and stored data.
This physical system plan ensures that the automation experiments have a stable, secure, and scalable foundation to operate efficiently and handle the demands of continuous data monitoring and processing.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
From the perspective of future system operation, several factors need to be considered to ensure that the automated processes remain efficient, adaptable, and sustainable over time:

Scalability:

As data volumes and monitoring requirements grow, the system must be scalable. This could involve designing a modular architecture that allows for adding new data sources, APIs, or monitoring tools without disrupting existing operations.
Maintenance and Updates:

Automated systems often rely on APIs and software that may need regular updates for security and compatibility. A structured update schedule and maintenance plan will help keep the system functioning optimally and secure from vulnerabilities.
Error Handling and Monitoring:

Future operation will benefit from robust error handling. For example, if an API call fails or a data source becomes unavailable, the system should log the error and attempt to retry or switch to a backup. Implementing a monitoring dashboard can also help operators track system health and performance in real time.
Adaptability for Future Technologies:

Automation tools and methods are rapidly evolving, with emerging technologies like AI and machine learning becoming increasingly relevant. The system should be designed to accommodate future enhancements, enabling integration with newer tools and technologies as they become available.
Cost and Resource Efficiency:

To ensure sustainable operation, the system should balance performance with cost efficiency. This might involve optimizing data storage, minimizing redundant operations, and managing resource usage to reduce operating costs over time.
User and Security Management:

Over time, there may be changes in user roles or security policies. The system should include flexible user management options, such as role-based access control, to ensure that only authorized personnel have access to sensitive data or functions.
In summary, a forward-looking approach to system operation will make sure the automated processes remain reliable, secure, and adaptable to future changes in technology and operational needs.

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subject: Re: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Creating high-quality source code instantly is tough because each automated system needs to pull data from different sourceslike IDS logs or router statsusing various tools (like vnStat or SNMP). Each source requires specific handling and setup, so its not easy to just generate code that fits all these unique requirements right away.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
While the initial response provided a solid foundation for requirements analysis, it can be further refined by considering the following:

1. Data Requirements and Quality:

Data Sources: Clearly identify the primary and secondary data sources, including their formats and accessibility.
Data Quality: Define specific quality standards for data, such as accuracy, completeness, and consistency.
Data Privacy and Security: Establish strict data privacy and security protocols to protect sensitive information.
2. Functional Requirements:

Parameter Collection: Detail the specific parameters to be collected, including their frequency and format.
Data Processing: Define the data processing steps, including cleaning, transformation, and analysis techniques.
Visualization: Specify the desired visualizations, such as charts, graphs, and dashboards.
Alerting and Notification: Define the criteria for generating alerts and notifications.
3. Non-Functional Requirements:

Performance: Establish performance benchmarks for data processing and visualization.
Scalability: Ensure the system can handle increasing data volumes and user loads.
Security: Implement robust security measures to protect the system and data.
Usability: Design a user-friendly interface for both technical and non-technical users.
4. Testing and Validation:

Unit Testing: Test individual components of the system.
Integration Testing: Test the interaction between different components.
System Testing: Test the entire system to ensure it meets functional and non-functional requirements.
User Acceptance Testing (UAT): Involve end-users in testing to validate the system's usability and effectiveness.
By addressing these requirements in detail, the final thesis can ensure that the automated system meets the specific needs of the project and delivers accurate, reliable, and actionable insights.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Creating qualitative source codes for the outlined Automation project requires careful planning, as immediate code generation isn't feasible due to the complexity and specificity of the parameters involved. Each section (Coco Analysis, Parameter Automation, and Future Automation) involves distinct processesrequiring precise tools, APIs, and procedural setupsthat must align to ensure data accuracy, reproducibility, and optimization. Additionally, the variety of data sources, along with the need for integration and periodic scheduling, means that automation must be customized and rigorously tested before implementation, rather than relying on instant code solutions.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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To make the Automation project work smoothly, we need a solid physical setup to keep data collection and processing running without hiccups. Reliable hardware, like good network connections and enough server power, is key to handling all the automated queries and storing data efficiently. Plus, strong security (like firewalls and secure API connections) is a must to keep sensitive datalike intrusion logs and traffic statssafe from any potential risks.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
To ensure the longevity and effectiveness of the Automation project, it's crucial to design a system that is both scalable and adaptable. As technology rapidly evolves and data volumes increase, the system should be able to handle growing demands without compromising performance.

A robust maintenance plan is essential to keep the automated processes running smoothly and securely. Regular updates and optimizations will help maintain efficiency and prevent potential vulnerabilities.

By incorporating a feedback mechanism, we can continuously learn and improve the system. This allows us to adapt to new challenges, such as emerging cybersecurity threats, and take advantage of advancements in automation tools. This proactive approach will guarantee the system's long-term resilience and effectiveness.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Creating high-quality source code based on the highlighted document poses several challenges:

Lack of Detailed Technical Specifications: The document provides a general framework (e.g., use of APIs, tools like vnStat or SNMP for tracking data, IDS like Snort) but lacks detailed requirements. Effective code requires explicit parameters, data structures, and performance metrics, which are not fully detailed here.

Ambiguity in Tool Configuration and Usage: While the document suggests various tools (e.g., antivirus APIs, network monitoring tools), it doesnt provide specific setup instructions, such as configuration settings or example values for these tools. Without precise configurations, its difficult to automate or ensure the desired functionality of the code.

Limited Error Handling Guidelines: Quality code must include robust error-handling strategies, particularly when working with APIs or real-time monitoring systems. The document does not offer specific strategies for addressing common errors or exceptions in API interactions or network data retrieval.

Optimization Insights Are Generalized: The document mentions "Optimization ideas" but does not specify what optimizations are expected. To write optimized code, clear goals (e.g., memory usage reduction, execution speed) are essential, which arent detailed here.

Need for Consistent Terminology and Structure: Theres some variation in how tools and methods are described across different sections, making it difficult to understand if similar methods are intended to follow identical processes. This can lead to inconsistent code development.

Limited Testing and Validation Requirements: Effective code implementation relies on testing and validation protocols, especially for automation tasks. The document doesnt specify testing criteria or validation procedures to ensure the code functions as intended under various conditions.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Creating code from qualitative requirements is no easy feat. Language is notoriously tricky; AI can easily misinterpret words. Context is crucial, as AI needs to understand the big picture to generate accurate code. Coding, by its nature, involves a lot of rules and specific details that AI might miss. To improve this process, we need smarter AI that can grasp the nuances of human language, understand the broader context, and follow coding rules and best practices. For now, blending human expertise with AI capabilities is likely the best approach.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Immediate code creation is hard because each task (like Coco Analysis) requires a unique logic to handle different data formats. Rushing risks errors in data flow and accuracy.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
The projects physical setup needs compatible tools and stable connections. Without assessing these, writing code that works smoothly isnt possible.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
To handle future updates, like adding new AI-driven security tools, the system needs adaptable code. Rushing now would make it rigid and hard to update later.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Each data source has unique needs. Immediate coding may overlook some, leading to errors. Careful analysis ensures reliability across all sources.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
From a logical system plan perspective, creating qualitative source codes immediately is challenging due to the complexity of integrating various automation tools and methods. The document outlines multiple automation techniques, such as using APIs for antivirus logs, IDS logs, and network traffic monitoring. Each of these methods requires a deep understanding of the specific tools and their APIs, as well as the ability to parse and interpret the data they provide. This complexity makes it difficult to generate high-quality source code without thorough planning and testing.

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subject: Re: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Instantly creating high-quality source code from the documents guidelines is challenging because automation scripts aren't just about basic functionality. To be effective, code usually needs to be tailored to the specific setup such as different API requirements for antivirus logs or traffic stats and tested under actual conditions. High-quality scripts also require careful error handling and debugging to catch issues during real-world use, plus security precautions if sensitive data is involved (e.g. intrusion detection logs). Without these elements, the code may work on the surface but lack the depth needed for reliability, security, and adaptability.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Physically, the system must handle diverse data sources and automation tools, which adds to the complexity. For instance, the document mentions using vnStat and SNMP for network traffic monitoring, each requiring different setup and integration processes. The physical infrastructure must support these tools, ensuring they can run efficiently and reliably. Additionally, the system must be robust enough to handle potential errors and inconsistencies in the data, which can further complicate the immediate creation of qualitative source codes.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Looking at future system operation, the document highlights upcoming developments in automation and AI, as well as future ideas for cybersecurity. These advancements will likely introduce new tools and methods, requiring continuous updates and adaptations to the source code. The dynamic nature of technology means that what works today might not be sufficient tomorrow, necessitating a flexible and scalable approach to source code development. This ongoing evolution makes it challenging to create qualitative source codes that remain effective over time.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
From the POV of the logical system plan-> 1. Data Flow: We need a clear path for how data moves between different components, like how antivirus APIs send data to the monitoring system.
2. Modularity: The system should be built in separate parts (modules) to make it easier to update or fix issues without disrupting everything.
3. Error Handling: There must be processes in place for handling errors. If something goes wrong, the system should alert administrators and log the issue for review.
4. Data Processing: We need to define how incoming data will be categorized and logged, as well as how reports will be generated to ensure smooth operations.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
From a requirements analysis standpoint, the document emphasizes the need for a detailed understanding of the data sources, automation tools, and methods. Each requirement must be meticulously analyzed to ensure the source code meets the projects objectives. This involves not only technical specifications but also considerations for optimization and future scalability. The thoroughness required in this analysis phase means that immediate creation of qualitative source codes is impractical without risking errors and inefficiencies.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
From the POV of the Physical system plan ->
1. Infrastructure: We need to outline the physical setup, including server specifications and network connections, to ensure the system can handle the expected data load.
2. Tool Integration: The physical system must connect various tools (like Windows Defender and SNMP). We need to ensure they work together smoothly.
3. Security: Protecting sensitive data is essential. We need security measures like encryption, firewalls, and access controls in place.
4. Testing Environment: It's important to have a separate space to test the automation processes before going live. This could be dedicated servers or virtual machines to simulate real conditions.

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subject: Re: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Creating qualitative source codes immediately is challenging for me because the document outlines various automation techniques that require a deep understanding of specific tools and their APIs, such as antivirus logs, IDS logs, and network traffic monitoring. Handling diverse data sources and ensuring the physical infrastructure supports these tools efficiently adds to the complexity. Additionally, the dynamic nature of technology means that future developments in automation and AI will require continuous updates and adaptations to the source code. Finally, a detailed requirements analysis is crucial to ensure the source code meets the project's objectives, which involves meticulous planning and consideration for optimization and scalability. All these factors make it impractical to generate high-quality source codes instantly without risking errors and inefficiencies.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
From the POV of requirement analysis-> 1. Identify User Needs: We need to clearly understand what users expect from the automation system. This includes their requirements for data accuracy, speed of reporting, and ease of use.
2. Functional Requirements: Specify what the system must do, such as collecting data from antivirus logs, processing it in real time, and generating reports on detected threats.
3. Non-Functional Requirements: These include system performance, security measures, and scalability. For example, the system should handle large amounts of data without lag and ensure that sensitive information is encrypted.
4. Compliance and Standards: We must ensure the system adheres to industry standards and regulations, especially concerning data privacy and security, to avoid legal issues.
5. Stakeholder Involvement: Regular feedback from stakeholders (like mentors and users) is crucial during development. Their input will help refine requirements and ensure the system meets everyones needs.

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subject: Re: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Creating qualitative source codes for the outlined Automation project requires careful planning, as immediate code generation isn't feasible due to the complexity and specificity of the parameters involved. Each section (Coco Analysis, Parameter Automation, and Future Automation) involves distinct processesrequiring precise tools, APIs, and procedural setupsthat must align to ensure data accuracy, reproducibility, and optimization. Additionally, the variety of data sources, along with the need for integration and periodic scheduling, means that automation must be customized and rigorously tested before implementation, rather than relying on instant code solutions.

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subject: Re: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
"Creating qualitative source codes for the outlined Automation project requires careful planning" <--each entry about qualitative source code instantly does need an example! Careful planning is starting there, where the first example is given... Planning can not be practicised on the level of generalized chaos-terms (magic of words). Planning is always deep context (e.g. parameter, configuration, data) dependent which parameter has a clear impact to a process (see IF/THEN).

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Creating high-quality source code requires specific knowledge of APIs, Python language and its usage, and reliable data sources of the chosen topic. Also every project is different, so each automation process requires special network setup and/or system configurations. At last successful code requires thorough testing to ensure it works as expected and doesnt have bugs.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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subject: Re: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Entry: Challenges in Creating High-Quality Source Code Immediately

One primary challenge is that developing source code directly from the current project documentation requires a complete understanding of both manual processes and automation needs, as shown in the documents analysis (e.g., COCO analysis, API automation). However, some critical details, like specific error-handling logic and the exact data processing workflows, are not fully defined, making it hard to implement reliable and precise code immediately.

To bridge this gap, its essential to finalize the theoretical model, specify API functions, and standardize response handling. This refined plan will ensure the source codes stability, security, and effectiveness.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_16
created: 2024-10-29 20:52:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 20:52:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
1. Evaluation of Usefulness for the Thesis:
- For each entry, consider if it directly contributes to the thesiss focus, such as automation, monitoring processes, or cyber security risk management.
- For example: This entry on COCO analysis is useful as it adds structured methods for risk assessment. However, adding examples or case-specific applications would enhance clarity for inclusion in the thesis.

2. Finetuning Entries:
- Suggest additional details or improvements to strengthen each entry for the thesis. For instance, suggest rephrasing general statements into specific applications: Including a step-by-step description of data handling in the COCO analysis would increase precision and relevancy.

3. Permalink Integration:
- Each entrys evaluation or finetuning can be linked to its respective entry to maintain coherence in the project and make it easy for readers to trace suggestions back to the original points discussed.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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To ensure the system's longevity, the scripts should be designed to accommodate future technological advancements. This means making them adaptable to new tools, APIs, and data sources. By doing so, we can reduce the need for frequent rewrites and keep the system up-to-date.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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All requirements should be well-documented and traceable, allowing each feature to be tracked from analysis through implementation. This makes it easier to manage changes, review progress, and ensure that all requirements are addressed in the final product.

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subject: Re: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Creating qualitative source codes directly from theoretical documents, such as the highlighted automation chapters, remains a complex challenge due to several factors. Firstly, the abstraction level in the theoretical frameworks often lacks detailed, concrete specifications required for coding. While concepts such as automation tools, data sources, and optimization ideas are presented, translating these into functional code requires a nuanced understanding of both the theoretical principles and practical programming languages. Moreover, the integration of APIs, data handling methods, and specific automation techniques often necessitate additional context that theoretical documents may not provide. This gap can lead to misunderstandings or oversights during implementation. Hence, collaboration and iterative discussions are essential to bridge this divide, ensuring that all relevant details are captured and understood for effective code development.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Creating qualitative source code requires a holistic understanding of how different parts of the system interact. Logical system planning facilitates this understanding by mapping out processes and data flows. However, automated code generation tools often lack this comprehensive perspective, leading to isolated code segments that do not function optimally within the larger system architecture.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
The physical system plan outlines the hardware and network resources necessary for system implementation. Automated code generation tools often assume that optimal infrastructure is available, which can lead to significant issues. For example, if a new application is generated to handle large data sets using advanced algorithms, it may rely on high-speed processors and extensive memory resources. If this application is deployed on outdated hardwaresuch as a server with limited RAM and an older CPUperformance issues will likely arise, such as slow processing times or system crashes. In a real-world scenario, consider a financial analysis tool that automates risk assessment using complex calculations; if its deployed on a system with insufficient computational power, the delays in processing can lead to missed market opportunities and could compromise decision-making.

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modified: 2024-10-29 23:28:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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A significant challenge is the dynamic nature of requirements in software development. As projects progress, stakeholder needs may evolve based on user feedback or changing market conditions. Automated source code generation may struggle to keep pace with these changes. For instance, if a mobile application initially designed for a specific platform (like iOS) is later required to support additional platforms (such as Android), the automated code generation process might not adequately adapt to these new requirements without significant human intervention, leading to delays and inconsistencies.

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created: 2024-10-29 23:43:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 23:43:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
I believe it would strengthen their argument to include concrete examples. For instance, in the context of Coco Analysis, they could illustrate how a specific parameterlike the threshold for data accuracyaffects the overall process. They could mention using a specific analysis tool that outlines this parameters impact on project outcomes.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
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Yes,checking the documentation carefully is essential to make sure it is detailed, clear, and straightforward. We should analyse each sentence and figure in detail to provide improved suggestions. This will help us to create specific recommendations, like adjusting a word, removing or adding a sentence, or modifying graphical elements.

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subject: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Using the highlighted document as the basis for this demo, we can see that the document describes specific and methodic parameters and settings to achieve its goal. As such, it would be imperative to follow each step precisely in order to recreate the environments and conditions for acceptable and useable results- this takes time and cannot be done immediately. While it would be possible to create results and data in a rapid manner, taking your time with following each condition, test, and theory laid out in the document would be necessary to acquire data that would be qualitative rather than rapid and immediate.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
Who and why is this person in a better situation based on these rel. long text-elements without any finetuning effects, exact recommendation (changes compared to the particular original versions)? Why it is worth having such kind of entries? What is the benefit of them? Who do have any benefits based on them? Experts have to work massive target-oriented. Each expertise brings immediately a better situation. Why is a new situation is better, it should always be trivial...

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
The person in a better situation is an expert who utilizes detailed entries to guide their work. These entries are valuable because they offer targeted information, helping experts to deal with specific issues more effectively. The benefits include improved understanding, better problem-solving, and informed decision-making. Professionals, teams, and organizations all gain from this knowledge, as it enhances collaboration and operational efficiency.. A new situation is better because it uses improved knowledge and skills, making work more effective and efficient.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Automation experiments (demo1)
message:
First part explains what CoCo analysis is, why its needed here, and what we learned from it. It sets a solid base for the rest of the project, making sure our automation efforts match the systems goals.After that process will cover how we automated important data, like antivirus logs and network traffic, using tools like APIs. Screenshots help clarify the setup, making it easy to see each tools role and how they work together.Last section looks ahead to future automation improvements, especially using AI, to make the system smarter and even more efficient over time.

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userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-24 21:34:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-24 21:34:00.000000
subject: Final Thesis Automation Coding
message:
My Final Thesis is in a phase where I am focusing on automation. As I am learning to code and use APIs, please feel free to give in your suggestions.

Also, if you have any questions regarding my project and thesis. Please write to me.


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created: 2024-10-24 22:24:00.000000
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subject: Re: Final Thesis Automation Coding
message:
This thread (https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62900) should be used for further communication...

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-10-25 09:45:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-25 09:51:00.000000
subject: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Initial entry: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62900#p163163

Demo-documentation: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=155068

Tasks: 

Please, help the Author (project owner) to have a more finetuned system plan incl. system operation conception! (Estimated time for demo-interpretation: 60 minutes).

Please, create appropriate entries here and now incl. reactions to entries from other Students (incl. project owner)!  (Estimated time for the first entry: 30 minutes +  (Estimated time for further entries: at least 60 minutes).

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_23
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subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
"Automate decision-making and reporting"
I use the COCO Y0 model in the analysis, can I consider it as an AI? After all, the COCO Y0 model is a similarity analysis algorithm. AI cannot analyze an object attribute matrix like COCO Y0. AI uses the basic methods (e.g. mode, median, correlation, standard deviation). I think that the application can run in real-time, because the analysis process can be repeated with the COCO Y0 model. When writing the program, I can write this cycle as continuous.

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userfullname: student_23
created: 2024-10-26 14:04:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-26 14:04:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
A certain set of AI as a set of sets is capable of a similar analysis, as the COCO Y0 similarity analyzer. COCO Y0 e.g. It can be called with API, C-Url, so automation and repetition of this process is possible.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-10-26 18:16:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-26 18:16:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
System plan:My software plan focuses on identifying higher-risk areas for remote workers in Operational Technology (OT) environments. It does this by automatically pulling data from an Excel file and ranking different attributes based on user-defined directions. The COCO Y0 model then analyzes these rankings to estimate risk levels. By using C# to automate this process, the software quickly identifies and prioritizes higher risks, helping to improve OT security and align with the goals of my thesis on proactive cybersecurity.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-10-26 18:27:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-26 18:27:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Youve made a valid point! The COCO Y0 model isnt exactly AI, but it does offer pattern analysis thats different from basic statistical methods.Id love to hear your thoughts on how we can run this analysis in real-time. What steps do you think we should take to make it continuous?

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-28 11:23:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-28 11:23:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
What is AI? It is an important question which could be asked in the final exam. Each term should be defined and a definition should be massive, robust, it means: a definition should ensure a KNUTH-like aproximation (in order to create a classification algorithm for the question: Is a given solution (object) an AI or not? Helpful remark: What is the result of the classification, if a hybridized object will be created from an AI-component and from a not-AI-component?

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-28 11:25:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-28 11:25:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
What is a real-time application in this context and in other contexts? Is the real-time-characteristic depending on context at all? (Helpful remark: see e.g. forecasting contexts)

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-28 11:31:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-28 11:31:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Who is responsible in case of this system plan for the hermeneutical module (it means: for the interpretation rules of the anti-discriminativeY0-Analyses)? Interpretation rules are rules being valid for each potential case in the combinatorial space and these rules do produce diagnostics, therapy-recommendations (incl. further analytical steps). The combinatorial space of the Y0-results is a list of all potential (charactirestic different) numeric constellations.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_23
created: 2024-10-28 21:26:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-28 21:26:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
I think I recognize a similarity in the topic of your thesis and my own. The difference in my paper is that in this case it extracts data from the Windows Performance Monitor. Objects such as CPU, memory, hard disk utilization. COCO Y0 analyzes this data and filters out risky elements.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-29 07:10:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 07:10:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
The system plans may have similarities (e.g. all LEGO-houses should be similar from different point of views = each house does use the same LEGO-kit). Therefore it is relevant to be cooperative and help each other through finetuning-experiments. On the other hand: the final exam expects that each Student is capable of interpreting the final thesis of the other Students from point of view a randomized choosen keyword/aspect (see name of a subject in the curriculum). If similarities could be identified in system plans, then it is also possible to cooperate on the field of automation: you can involve into your own solution source codes (or ideas) from other Students.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 08:27:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 08:27:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Yes, its not exactly AI but have you considered the pros and cons. If coco-analysis is able to give results in your expected tasks. I think it should be further explored and perfected

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-29 09:13:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 09:13:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
We does really need KNUTH-oriented (programmable) definition for the term of "AI"! In frame of a final exam, it is not acceptable to have statements, but this unfortunately without KNUTH-oriented finetuning!

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_4
created: 2024-10-29 11:27:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:27:00.000000
subject: Re: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Dear Professor, Pitlik and Colleagues,
After reviewing the system plan documentation, I would like to offer several suggestions for refinement and clarification:

Concrete Examples and Specifications

The document frequently uses qualitative terms like "suspicious," "unusual," or "significant" without defining specific thresholds or metrics
Recommendation: Define precise numerical thresholds for each monitored parameter, for example:

CPU usage > 90% for > 30 seconds
Memory usage spike of > 50% within 5 seconds
Disk write rate > 80MB/s sustained for > 1 minute

Real-time Processing Architecture

The current plan mentions real-time monitoring but doesn't specify the technical implementation
Suggested additions:

Define polling interval (e.g., 2-second intervals as mentioned in analysis)
Specify buffer size for temporary data storage
Detail how the system handles concurrent monitoring of multiple parameters
Outline data processing pipeline from collection to analysis

Decision Making Logic

The COCO Y0 algorithm implementation needs more detailed specification:

Input parameters and their weights
Decision thresholds for triggering alerts
False positive mitigation strategy
Example decision tree with concrete scenarios

System Boundaries and Integration

Clarify exactly what the system will and won't handle:

Which security responses are automated vs. requiring user intervention
Integration points with Windows Performance Monitor API
Data persistence and historical analysis capabilities
Limitations of the monitoring scope

Performance Impact

Address the system's own resource consumption:

Expected CPU/memory footprint
Impact on system performance
Optimization strategies for minimal overhead

Benchmark Comparisons

As suggested in the comments, include:

Comparison with existing monitoring solutions
Expected performance improvements
Unique features justifying new development
Quantitative benefits over current solutions

Flow Chart Enhancement

The flow chart should be expanded to include:

Standard flow chart symbols and conventions
Decision points with specific conditions
Error handling paths
System state transitions
Integration points with external systems

AI Implementation Details

For the AI-based prioritization system:

Specify training data requirements
Define feature selection criteria
Detail model update frequency
Compare with non-AI alternatives
Justify AI usage with concrete benefits

Would you like me to elaborate on any of these points? I believe addressing these aspects would significantly strengthen the system plan and provide clearer guidance for implementation.
Best regards,

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_7
created: 2024-10-29 11:46:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:46:00.000000
subject: Re: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Expanding the flowchart to illustrate the software's automated responses for better understanding. Providing examples in the Object Attribute Matrix (OAM) to show how specific values correspond to risk levels, and clarify the prioritization logic with a real-time use case. Justify the selection of the COCO Y0 model by comparing it briefly to alternative approaches, especially non-AI options. Maybe improving the user interface section by defining intuitive design elements that simplify user interaction might help. A detailed flowchart showing exactly how the software responds to issues would also make its functions clearer. Adding specific examples in the Object Attribute Matrix (OAM) would show how the software decides whats risky, making it easier to see how it works. A brief explanation of why the COCO Y0 model was chosen would help readers see its advantages and a simple and user-friendly interface would make the software easy for others to use without extra training.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_20
created: 2024-10-29 11:47:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:47:00.000000
subject: Re: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
automate the extraction process from Performance Monitor and track various metrics like maximum paging file utilization, disk drive write rate, disk drive utilization, disk drive read rate, free space, pre-recorded memory utilization, processor usage in user mode, and overall processor utilization

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_10
created: 2024-10-29 11:59:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:59:00.000000
subject: Re: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Consider using more efficient data processing techniques, such as multithreading or asynchronous programming, to improve real-time data collection and analysis. This will enhance performance and responsiveness.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_5
created: 2024-10-29 12:27:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 12:27:00.000000
subject: Re: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Create a flowchart that shows the workflow from data retrieval to decision-making and reporting. This can cover stages such as data acquisition, processing, analysis, and output.
Anticipate potential issues such as API call failures, command errors, and network interruptions. Outline solutions, like retry mechanisms, error logging, or notifications, for faster debugging and improved system resilience.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-29 13:03:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 13:03:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
1. Objective:

Our goal is to create a plan that is clear and detailed, enabling every team member to understand it immediately and execute it without further questions.

2. Key Actions:

Clarifications and Corrections:
Review and refine the original text, flowcharts, or pseudocode to minimize any misunderstandings.

Clear Documentation:
Ensure that every quote and reference is relevant, accurately sourced, and justified to emphasize its importance in the project.

Defining Boundaries:
Provide only suggestions that directly enhance the clarity and feasibility of the plan.

3.Step-by-Step Tasks:

First Entry:
Start with a specific fine-tuning recommendation (approximately 30 minutes) based on the latest project documentation to identify immediate areas needing clarification.

Further Entries:
Continue with detailed observations and recommendations (around 60 minutes or more, as needed). Respond to contributions from others to ensure a unified understanding.

4.Essence:

Every contribution should aim to make the plan clear and actionable, so that everyone can work confidently without further questions.

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System Plan Overview

Objective & Key Use Cases
Define the Goal: Clearly state the purpose of the system.
Use Cases: List the primary use cases that reflect how the system will be used.

User Roles & Permissions
Identify user roles and specify access levels for each to ensure data privacy and security.

System Architecture
Overview: High-level system design (e.g., frontend, backend, database).
Tech Stack: Specify main technologies used (e.g., React, Node.js).

User Journey & Workflow
Map out a typical user journey, focusing on actions, triggers, and expected outcomes.

Security & Compliance
Outline key security features (e.g., encryption) and any legal requirements (e.g., GDPR).

Performance Metrics
Identify core performance indicators (e.g., response time, uptime) and acceptable benchmarks.

Testing & QA
Basic plan for unit, integration, and user testing to ensure reliability.

Deployment & Scalability
Outline deployment steps and scalability options for future growth.

Maintenance & Updates
Set a basic schedule for updates, covering bug fixes and new features.

Documentation & Training
Plan for documentation and basic training materials to support users.

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Standardized Entry: System Operation Conception:

System Monitoring Goals
The project aims to develop a proactive monitoring and analysis system that leverages Windows Performance Monitor to continuously track CPU, memory, and disk utilization in real-time. The goal is to automate data collection, assess system health, and identify potential risks.

Data Collection & Analysis
Performance metrics such as paging file usage, disk I/O rates, and CPU load will be recorded and analyzed with COCO Y0 for real-time anomaly detection, enhancing response speed to potential threats.

Automation & Alerts
Implement automated alerts for unusual activity, especially for USB device connections and unexpected performance spikes. This ensures that administrators can act promptly when risks are detected.

Scalability & Maintenance
The system should be easily scalable, with clear documentation to support ongoing maintenance and updates.

2. Non-Standardized Response Example:

Potential issues could arise from manually sorting data or if the system only operates on-demand. Lack of automated alerts may delay responses to threats. Additional alternative methods like advanced threat-detection algorithms or enhanced alert customization might be valuable.

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subject: Re: Real-time system (demo2)
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To enhance the system plan, clearly define each component, input, and output, using detailed workflows like flowcharts or pseudocode to prevent misunderstandings. Analyze the demo to identify unclear steps and refine them for practical usability, adding decision rules where needed. When contributing entries, provide a concise summary and respond with targeted clarifications that align with project goals, ensuring feedback is actionable. The final documentation should be thorough enough for others to understand and implement without further questions, with exact citations and justifications supporting each methodological choice.

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subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
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Smart Tourist Assistant app.
Modular System Design: Since this app integrates multiple AI componentslike machine learning for itinerary personalization and NLP for translationsIm considering a modular design for scalability and maintainability. Id love to hear any suggestions on designing a modular system, especially around managing dependencies between modules to keep operations seamless.

User Data Privacy (GDPR Compliance): Another key part of the system is securing user data, especially given the real-time location and preferences involved. Any advice on handling this in a scalable way?

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subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
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In my software, I am responsible for the hermeneutical module, which means I will create the interpretation rules for the anti-discriminatory Y0-Analyses. My supervisors you and Proff László Pitlik will help me modify these rules. I will also look at my analysis results and make changes to the rules as needed to meet my project goals.

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subject: Tárgy: Real-time system (demo2)
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Sorry everyone for not responding until now, but I was on vacation.
I have read through the suggestions and thank you very much for the useful advice.
I am correcting and expanding my flowchart.
I need to review a few concepts in order to move forward. I also have to think through and study the API solution.
I will apply soon. :)

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subject: Re: Real-time system (demo2)
message:
Automate the entire data extraction process from Performance Monitor to eliminate manual work and ensure real-time data updates. Use scripts or APIs compatible with Windows for continuous, automatic monitoring.
Ensure data logs are updated in short intervals (e.g., every 2 seconds) for accurate, live risk assessment.Utilize the COCO Y0 model not just for periodic assessments but integrate it into a real-time framework. This approach can instantly flag high-risk trends in resource usage, making the system more proactive in threat detection.
Define an operational workflow for incident detection and response, including specific actions when anomalies are found. This can involve logging threats, immediate USB port disconnection, or user notifications with clear instructions.Design the software with future expansion in mind, allowing for easy addition of features like AI-based threat detection and more advanced anomaly detection algorithms.Create an intuitive user interface displaying key metrics and alerts. Notifications should provide relevant details like the process name, resource impact, and recommended actions, helping users respond quickly and effectively.This will be very effective and continuous.

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subject: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
Chapter 5 in this document covers "System Modeling" in software engineering, focusing on creating abstract representations of systems to understand their functionality and communicate this to stakeholders. The chapter highlights multiple perspectives for modeling:

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Context Models illustrate a system's operational environment, defining boundaries and external interactions. They assist in understanding the systems role within a larger framework.

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Interaction Models use diagrams (e.g., use case and sequence diagrams) to show interactions between the system and users or other systems. This helps in identifying and clarifying user requirements and potential communication issues.

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Structural Models focus on the architecture and data structures within the system. Class diagrams are used extensively to show relationships and dependencies between objects.

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Behavioral Models describe how systems respond dynamically to events and data inputs. They are represented by activity diagrams (data processing) and state diagrams (event responses).

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Model-Driven Engineering (MDE) aims to develop software by creating high-level models that can be transformed into code, reducing dependency on programming languages. MDE includes various types of models, like Computation Independent Models (CIM), Platform Independent Models (PIM), and Platform Specific Models (PSM). The document discusses Model-Driven Architecture (MDA) and Executable UML (xUML) as ways to implement MDE principles.

These models serve multiple functions, including facilitating discussion, documenting systems, and providing a blueprint for code generation, ultimately supporting various stages of software development from requirements gathering to implementation.


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subject: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
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3 follup questions
How can context modeling be adapted to highlight and address cybersecurity threats in a system's operational environment?

What are the best practices for incorporating secure interaction modeling within systems that handle sensitive or critical data?

How does model-driven engineering (MDE) integrate security measures at different model levels, and what are the challenges in automating secure code generation?

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