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userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-29 09:03:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 09:03:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
Operative tasks: "Context Models illustrate a system's operational environment, defining boundaries and external interactions."<--please, create a figure/picture/graphical solution about this complexity for the PARTICULAR project and please, finetune this graphical unit in frame of this Moodle-course! (creating the first version of a figure = ca. 30 minutes, finetuning of the versions = min. 15 minutes for each finetuning effect... Special challenge: online/remote communication about pictures with words (c.f. magic of words), is a real challenge - worth experimenting!

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-29 09:07:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 09:07:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
Such kind of questions (how adapting, best practices, how integrating) should be fist of all discussed e.g. with ChatGPT AND the outputs from ChatGPT should be finetuned here and now in Moodle (c.f. simulation of final exam situations)...

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 10:48:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 10:48:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
How can context modeling be adapted to highlight and address cybersecurity threats in a system's operational environment?

Adapting Context Modeling for Cybersecurity:

- Dynamic Context Awareness: Context modeling can be enhanced by incorporating real-time data from various sources, such as network traffic, user behavior, and system logs. This allows the model to adapt dynamically to changes in the operational environment and detect anomalies indicative of cyber threats.

- Threat Intelligence Integration: Integrating threat intelligence feeds into context models helps identify known threats and vulnerabilities relevant to the system's environment. This contextual information can assist in predicting potential attack vectors and adapting system defenses accordingly.

- Behavioral Analysis: By modeling typical user and system behaviors, deviations from the norm can be flagged as potential security threats. Machine learning techniques can analyze historical data to refine behavior profiles and improve detection accuracy.

- Risk Assessment Models: Context modeling can include risk assessment components that evaluate the potential impact and likelihood of various threats. By quantifying risks, organizations can prioritize security measures based on the context of specific operational environments.

- Feedback Loops: Implementing feedback loops where the system learns from past incidents can enhance context models. This allows for continuous improvement in threat detection and response strategies.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 10:49:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
What are the best practices for incorporating secure interaction modeling within systems that handle sensitive or critical data?

Best Practices for Secure Interaction Modeling:

- Access Control Policies: Implement role-based access control (RBAC) or attribute-based access control (ABAC) to ensure that only authorized users can access sensitive data. Clearly define user roles and permissions to minimize the risk of unauthorized access.

- Data Encryption: Ensure that data in transit and at rest is encrypted. Use strong encryption standards to protect sensitive information during interactions between systems, applications, and users.

- Secure APIs and Protocols: Design secure APIs and communication protocols that incorporate authentication and integrity checks. Ensure that data exchanged between components is validated and sanitized to prevent injection attacks.

- User Authentication and Authorization: Implement strong authentication mechanisms, such as multi-factor authentication (MFA), to verify user identities. Regularly review and update authentication processes to address emerging threats.

- Threat Modeling and Risk Assessment: Conduct regular threat modeling exercises to identify potential vulnerabilities in interaction points. Assess risks associated with these interactions and implement appropriate mitigations.

- Audit Trails and Monitoring: Maintain comprehensive logs of user interactions and system events. Implement monitoring solutions to detect unusual activities that may indicate security breaches or policy violations.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 10:49:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 10:49:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
How does model-driven engineering (MDE) integrate security measures at different model levels, and what are the challenges in automating secure code generation?

Integration of Security Measures in MDE:

- Security Requirements at the Requirements Level: MDE allows for the early specification of security requirements within models. Security aspects can be captured alongside functional requirements, ensuring that security considerations are integrated from the beginning of the development process.

- Architecture-Level Security: At the architectural level, security patterns can be modeled to ensure that security controls are part of the system's design. This includes defining secure communication channels, access controls, and other architectural safeguards.

- Design-Level Security: MDE can facilitate the incorporation of security measures at the design level, such as specifying secure interaction protocols and data handling processes. Models can be enriched with security-related elements that guide implementation.

- Code Generation with Security in Mind: MDE supports the generation of code from models, and security constraints can be embedded into the code generation process. Security annotations in models can drive the generation of secure code.

Challenges in Automating Secure Code Generation:

- Complexity of Security Policies: Security requirements can be complex and context-dependent, making it challenging to automate their implementation accurately. Capturing all necessary security controls in models can be difficult.

- Diversity of Security Standards: Different systems may need to adhere to various security standards and regulations (e.g., GDPR, HIPAA). Automating code generation to comply with multiple standards requires a flexible and adaptable model.

- Integration of Security Testing: Automating security testing within the MDE pipeline is essential to ensure that generated code adheres to security requirements. However, developing effective automated security testing tools that can work seamlessly with MDE is a significant challenge.

- Evolving Threat Landscape: The constantly changing nature of cybersecurity threats requires that security measures in MDE be regularly updated. Automating this process while ensuring compliance with the latest security practices poses ongoing challenges.

- Skill Gaps and Expertise: The successful implementation of MDE with security measures requires expertise in both modeling and cybersecurity. The lack of skilled professionals in these areas can hinder the effective integration of security into the development process.

In summary, adapting context modeling to address cybersecurity threats, implementing secure interaction modeling best practices, and integrating security into MDE are all critical areas that organizations must focus on to enhance their cybersecurity posture. Each approach presents unique challenges but also opportunities for improving the security of systems that handle sensitive or critical data.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_10
created: 2024-10-29 10:58:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 10:58:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
1. Context Modeling for Cybersecurity: To adapt context modeling for cybersecurity, you can include specific elements like trust zones, data flows, and potential threat actors. This helps you spot vulnerabilities early and figure out where security controls should be placed.

2. Secure Interaction Modeling: When modeling interactions for secure systems, focus on things like access roles, authentication, and encrypted data flows. Threat modeling here is keyit helps you anticipate security issues and address them, especially when dealing with sensitive data.

3. MDE and Security: MDE weaves in security at different model layers, from high-level requirements to platform-specific protections. However, generating secure code automatically is tough because security threats change constantly, and it takes careful testing to ensure everything works across platforms.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-10-29 11:02:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message: I agree with your responses, you have explained in a simple but appropriate way . Thank you
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
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created: 2024-10-29 11:40:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
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Please, create context-dependent graphical units for each relevant layer as examples in order to have chance to fine tune them in a collaborative way!

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_19
created: 2024-10-29 11:49:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:49:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
1.How can context modeling be adapted to highlight and address cybersecurity threats in a system's operational environment?

Adapting context modeling to address cybersecurity threats involves integrating security-focused elements to identify potential vulnerabilities and access points in the system's operational environment. One approach is to extend context models with additional layers that detail trusted and untrusted boundaries, identify potential attack vectors, and specify security roles for each external interaction. This adaptation can be achieved by:

Defining Threat Boundaries: Clearly mark boundaries where external interactions pose security risks, such as between user access points and critical system resources.
Adding Threat Agents and Trust Levels: Include representations of potential threat agents and assign trust levels to various users or external systems to gauge where higher scrutiny is needed.
Mapping Data Sensitivity: Highlight areas of the system that handle sensitive or confidential data, as these are potential targets for cyber attacks.
Integrating Security Controls: Show security controls or mitigations, such as firewalls, access controls, and encryption, as part of the model to demonstrate how the system defends against external threats.
This approach ensures that stakeholders can visualize where security risks exist and how the system is structured to mitigate them, providing a clear picture of the cybersecurity landscape within the operational environment.

2.What are the best practices for incorporating secure interaction modeling within systems that handle sensitive or critical data?

Secure interaction modeling in systems dealing with sensitive data requires a focus on protecting data flows, authentication, and authorization processes. Best practices include:

Use of Secure Communication Protocols: Ensure that all interaction models, such as sequence diagrams, incorporate secure communication protocols (e.g., HTTPS, TLS) to protect data transmission.
User Authentication and Role-Based Access Control (RBAC): Define user roles clearly in use case diagrams and specify secure access control mechanisms, ensuring that only authorized roles have access to critical data.
Input Validation and Sanitization: Model interactions that involve data input with checks for input validation and sanitization to prevent injection attacks and other malicious inputs.
Auditing and Logging Points: Indicate key points within interaction models for logging and monitoring user activities, which can help in detecting suspicious behavior or breaches.
Data Masking and Encryption: Represent how sensitive data is encrypted or masked during interactions to reduce exposure risks, especially in systems where data is exchanged between trusted and untrusted boundaries.
Incorporating these elements ensures that interaction models not only define functionality but also reinforce security measures critical to protecting sensitive information.

3.How does model-driven engineering (MDE) integrate security measures at different model levels, and what are the challenges in automating secure code generation?

In Model-Driven Engineering, integrating security at different model levels involves embedding security requirements across each model abstraction, from high-level conceptual models to platform-specific implementations:

Computation Independent Models (CIM): CIMs can capture high-level security goals and compliance requirements without tying them to specific technologies. These models specify the what rather than the how, providing a secure foundation.
Platform Independent Models (PIM): PIMs detail the security architecture, including access controls, data protection methods, and encryption. This level allows for the standardization of security measures across various platforms by specifying secure design patterns.
Platform Specific Models (PSM): At the PSM level, models integrate security elements tied to particular platforms, such as specific APIs for encryption, authentication libraries, or data integrity mechanisms. This level ensures that security requirements from higher models are translated into platform-compatible security controls.
Challenges in automating secure code generation include:

Context-Specific Security Needs: Security requirements often depend on the context and may vary widely, making it difficult to automate generalized secure code.
Complexity in Mapping Models to Code: Translating security models to executable code involves complex mappings, especially when ensuring that security protocols are adhered to across multiple platforms and languages.
Keeping Up with Evolving Threats: Automated secure code generation struggles to keep pace with evolving security threats, as security requirements might change faster than model-to-code transformations can adapt.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
"specific elements like trust zones, data flows, and potential threat actors" <--it is good, that the specific elements (as a generalized caos-term) immediately could be explaind through examples (see "like"), but the terms after "like" are unfortunately also generalized terms (see trust zones, data flows, and potential threat actors). Please, create examples on the transaction level, it means: good examples are filtered log-data (=facts) and not collective terms for a lot of factual data...

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-11-04 02:16:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-04 02:16:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Summary Chapter 5 and followup Questions
message:
1. Context modeling can be adapted by including threat actors, attack vectors, and security boundaries. Highlight potential vulnerabilities and interactions with external systems that could be exploited.
2. Use secure communication protocols, ensure data encryption, validate inputs, and include access control measures. Regularly update and review use case and sequence diagrams to reflect current security practices.
3. MDE integrates security by embedding security requirements in CIM, PIM, and PSM models. Challenges include ensuring the completeness of security requirements, maintaining model consistency, and accurately translating models into secure code.

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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 08:23:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 08:23:00.000000
subject: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
If my dear collegues can help with the following questions. Its to get an understanding for my thesis as it will help stimulate a real-life like situation

1. If you have ever and if yes, How many times do you change your wife password ?

2. Do you use an cyber security software or rely on windows protect ?

3. Do you have any VPN access, and if yes, how often do you use it ?

4. Do you update your OS regularly or delay the update, even when its available ?

5. Do you understand standard and basic anti-phishing and data protection protocols and do you make sure that phishing emails etc. are deleted and reported ?

Thanks for your kind help


raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_10
created: 2024-10-29 08:48:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 08:48:00.000000
subject: Re: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
1. I do not change my wifi password.
2. I only use Windows Protection, because I am not sure about other defenders.
3. No.
4. Yes, If there is OS update available, i always updates my OS.
5. I always delete phishing mails.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_2
created: 2024-10-29 09:11:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 09:11:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
This kind of data collection does need a questionnaire! :-) Here in Moodle it is FORBIDDEN to handle data having e.g. GDPR-concerns...

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_6
created: 2024-10-29 09:46:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 09:46:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
1. I don't change my wifi password.
2. I use McAfee, because Windows protect is not the strongest.
3. I don't have VPN access, and I never used it.
4. If there is an update, I will update it immediately.
5. I always delete such e-mails or e.g. sms, or block the given address from which the letter came.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 10:20:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 10:20:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
Thank you for mentioning about the GDPR, I am reading more about it and am making sure that my final thesis and data collection program corresponds to it.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 10:21:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 10:21:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message: Thank You, i have a similar strategy and feel many people follow these too
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 10:21:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 10:21:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Important Question for my Thesis
message: Thank you for the answer.
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_19
created: 2024-10-29 11:28:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 11:28:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
1.I've changed it 2 3 times
2.No
3.I use vpn Proxy sometimes
4.I do update my OS with no delay
5.I do not delete most phishing emails,it stays in scamm folder

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_17
created: 2024-10-29 13:33:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 13:33:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
1. Yes, when I changed the wifi providers.
2. I use windows firewalls, Its enough protection for me.
3. I don't have VPN access, and I never used it.
4. Yes when there is an update I always, update it
5. I do not delete most phishing emails, since its goes into the scam folder anyways

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-29 14:23:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 14:23:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message: Thank you
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_16
created: 2024-10-29 18:16:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-29 18:16:00.000000
subject: Re: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
Hello Aadi Rajesh,
Here are my answers based on my own experiences:

1. Changing passwords: I change my own passwords regularly, though I've rarely had to change them for others. When I do, its usually every 6-12 months.

2. Cybersecurity software: I rely mostly on Windows Defender, but I occasionally use other antivirus tools to double-check for threats e.g. McAfee.

3. VPN usage: I use a VPN not that too much but occasionally. I connect to public Wi-Fi and sometimes at home. Typically, a few times a week.

4. OS updates: I try to keep my system updated as soon as updates are available, as it seems safer.

5. Anti-phishing awareness: I keep up with basic anti-phishing practices and am cautious with unfamiliar emails. Because it has some features not familiar with my using things. Usually delete and not open it.

Hope this helps with your thesis :)

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-10-30 01:25:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 01:25:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
1.I change my wifi password with different interval of time to make sure my wifi won't get hack.
2.I mostly rely on window protection but using cyber security software is more better and secure option.
3.NO ,because it's not secure.
4:I mostly delay update.because ,OS updates are to much time consuming.
5.I prefer not to open phishing and unknown emails.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_1
created: 2024-10-30 11:35:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 11:35:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
Regarding point no.4 , do we see anz lags or reduced speed if you do not update the OS? Also, if i can please ask, do you use chrome OS or Mac or Windows or Linux?

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-10-30 18:56:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 18:56:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Important Question for my Thesis
message: Yeah,it's true .It reduced the speed of system and cause lags.I use windows 11 chrome.
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_14
created: 2024-10-30 20:38:00.000000
modified: 2024-10-30 20:41:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Important Qu I am well-informed about the Moodle course "id=17814"estion for my Thesis
message:
1. I do not usually change my wi-fi password unless there is a need for it
2. I rely on Windows
3.no VPN access
4. I do update it
4. I leave this messages

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_12
created: 2024-11-03 20:45:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-03 20:45:00.000000
subject: Re: Important Question for my Thesis
message:
1. Yes ,1 time. Because the first password is too long.
2. I do Avast antivirus. Windows protect is not that strong.
3. Yes i have. I use it maybe once in a month.
4. When its available i update it.
5. I delete them even if its in the scam folder. And block the sender or adress.

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-11-04 06:59:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-04 07:49:00.000000
subject: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Please, send your adequate answers for each question (I.a/b, II.a/b, III.a/b: 2 numbers, 1 list, 3 texts) in a separate way! You may write free/adequate professional comments to the answers of each other...  Please, use always permalinks/URLs for defining the relationships to the thread-elements (demo0): see examples below (e.g. https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163493)!


raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-11-04 07:05:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-04 07:05:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Task/Question I.a (concerning the demo0-thread): What is the number of the ideal/standardized anwers? (We do need just a single number from each Student in a separate entry): ...
Task/Question I.b (concerning the demo0-thread): Please, write your argumentation (for the question: WHY do you think exactly so?) concerning the number in a separate entry as reply for your own guessed number before: ...

raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-11-04 07:06:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-04 07:06:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 256
raw_payload:
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-11-04 07:07:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-04 07:45:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
WHY: I identified this number as the highest exact number in the thread "demo0"... (see: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967 and https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163421)

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Task/Question II.a (concerning the demo0-thread): What is the number of the maximal elements of the ideal/standardized anwer-string? (We do need just a single number from each Student in a separate entry): ...
Task/Question II.b (concerning the demo0-thread): Please, write your argumentation (for the question: WHY do you think exactly so?) concerning the maximal number of the potential ideal answers (with the same ideal length guessed and prooved before) in a separate entry as reply for your own guessed number before: ...

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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created: 2024-11-04 07:13:00.000000
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
WHY: potential number of the affected years = 4 (2024;2025;2026;2027) * potential number of the affected months (12: Jan;...;Dec), therefore: 4*12=48 (elements are maximal in the combinatorial space)

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Help: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997
Help: the above-mentioned guessed number and the argumentation behind it are only demo-answers for clarifying the task-oriented expectations above...
Help: Please, read all entries in the thread about the annex of demo0!
Estimated time: for one single guess and for the deep/solid argumentation/explanation concerning this guessed number: 30 minutes

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Help: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997
Help: the above-mentioned guessed number and the argumentation behind it are only demo-answers for clarifying the task-oriented expectations above...
Help: Please, read all entries in the thread about the annex of demo0!
Estimated time: for one single guess and for the deep/solid argumentation/explanation concerning this guessed number: 30 minutes

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Task/Question III.a (concerning the demo0-thread): Please, list ALL of the potential elements of the ideal/standardized anwer-strings with the same (ideal) length derived by you in case of the I.a / II.a question/task? (We do need ALL strings: the number of these elements has been guessed by you in case of question/task II.a, and the number of the ideal length is your answer for question/task I.a <--please, do not forget: each task has a massive relationship to each other:-): ...
Task/Question III.b (concerning the demo0-thread): Please, write free about your potential problems concerning the maximal number of the potential ideal answers (with the same ideal length guessed and prooved before) and/or concerning the number of ideal length in a separate entry as reply for your own guessed numbers (I.a, I.b) before: ...

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Demo-answer (a simulated list with potential 48 elements): 1. 2024-JAN; 2....;...; 47....; 48. 2027-DEC

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Problem A: 2024-JAN and 2027-DEC (see https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163421), have a length of strings = 8 and not 256 (see: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163421) <--self-check = :-(
Problem B: Why should be e.g. the element of "2024-JAN" accepted as a valid answer, if the demo0-annex has a date of "2024-SEP"? <--self-check = :-(
...

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 8
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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I believe the length of the standardized answer is 8 because, in the context of demo0, we are required to submit only the date for the final thesis submission deadline. The options provided include "2024 Nov," "2025 Apr," "2025 Nov," "2026 Apr," and "2026 Nov."

The standardized answer must follow a specific format, which in our case is "year Month" (e.g., "2024 Nov"). Therefore, the length of this standardized format is indeed 8 characters.

To confirm this, I used the following C# code:
using System;
string answer = "2024 Nov"; // Example of a standardized answer
int length = answer.Length;
Console.WriteLine(length);

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created: 2024-11-04 15:14:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: ii.a) 5
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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ii.b) The maximal elements represent the unique entries formatted as "YYYY Month."
The entries2024 Nov,
2025 Apr,
2025 Nov,
2026 Apr,
2026 Novare distinct and meet the criteria for ideal answers. There are no duplicates among them, leading to a total of 5 unique combinations. This count reflects the maximal potential ideal answers within the specified format

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
iii.a) Potential Elements of the Ideal/Standardized Answer-Strings: Based on the previous analysis and the ideal length of 8 characters (derived from Task II.a), the potential elements of the ideal answer-strings with the same length are:

2024 Nov
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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iii.b) In considering the maximal number of potential ideal answers with the ideal length derived in previous tasks, I encountered challenges regarding consistency, particularly when including both names and dates in the standardized response format. This response explores the impact of varying name lengths on maintaining a standardized answer format and potential implications for consistency.
Variability in Name Lengths: Unlike dates, which can be uniformly formatted (e.g., "YYYY-MMM"), names vary significantly in length. Some names are short, like "Kamilla," while others, like "Zandangarav," are much longer. This variation disrupts the ability to maintain a consistent, ideal length, as required by standardization. For example, "2024-Nov, Kamilla" is much shorter than "2024-Nov, Zandangarav," meaning that each entry could differ widely in length, which conflicts with the standardized format derived in Task Ia.

Implications for Consistency: Including names alongside dates without controlling for length variations challenges the standardization goal of predictable, fixed-length responses. Standardized answers should ideally be concise and consistent to allow for automated processing and ease of reading. However, varying name lengths reduce predictability and may create confusion for recipients or systems that rely on fixed-length formats.

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created: 2024-11-04 17:38:00.000000
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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I.a: Ideal Answer Number: 300

Based on the demo0 thread and my interpretation of ideal response lengths, I believe the ideal answer length is 300 characters. This length allows responses to be detailed enough to fully address the question while remaining concise.

https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163493

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Task I.b

I selected 300 characters as the ideal length because it balances depth and conciseness, allowing enough space to answer questions thoroughly without being excessive. In IT system design, benchmarks and limitations are often set to ensure efficient operation while providing adequate functionality. Similarly, a 300-character limit can offer enough detail to convey complex points clearly while ensuring responses remain straightforward and easy to read.

https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163493

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
The ideal lenght of the answer is exactly 37 characters because the document/email precisely instructed the answer should be the following:
thesis submission deadline = <see options below> 2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, other/later

https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997

Base, The fixed part of the answer (thesis submission deadline = ) is 29 characters -> including spaces.
Option length e.g. (2024 Nov) is 8 characters -> including space.

derivation rule: base + option

https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163521

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I.B) The ideal response structure requires that we only use one of the six specified options for . This means that there are exactly six distinct ways to form an answer using each option once. Given that each response is standardized and follows the exact same format, no additional variations are possible. Therefore, we conclude that the number of ideal/standardized answers is exactly 6.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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II.B) In accordance to demo0, the "ideal/standardized answer-string" has a fixed structure: it must start with "thesis submission deadline =" and end with exactly one of the six specified options (2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, or other/later). Since there are exactly six distinct options available, the total number of potential ideal answers that adhere to this structure is also precisely 6. Each unique choice results in one of the six maximum, ideal answers.

Since there are exactly six distinct options available, the total number of potential ideal answers that adhere to this structure is also precisely 6. Each unique choice results in one of the six maximal, ideal answers

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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III.A) The ideal answer strings are derived from the requirement that submission deadlines start from 2024-SEP as specified in the demo0-annex. Therefore, dates prior to this, such as "2024-JAN", are excluded from consideration. Each entry follows the established format: thesis submission deadline = , ensuring consistency across all answers.

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III.B) The primary concerns addressed include ensuring that all entries are valid according to the specified timeframe in the demo0-annex. This means that any dates prior to 2024-SEP are not valid for inclusion, as including invalid dates could misrepresent the submission timeline and lead to confusion. Furthermore, the expected length for responses is confirmed to be 8 characters when formatted as "YYYY-MMM", allowing each response to remain precise and within the formatting criteria. Maintaining a consistent format for all responses enhances clarity and adherence to the instructions provided in the demo0, which is critical for formal submissions or evaluations. Overall, the chosen standardized answer strings are valid and reflect a careful consideration of the guidelines

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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WHY: I checked the ideal length of the answer (thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr) with LEN() = "HOSSZ" function in excel, in the email/document specifically stated that the following response was required thesis submission deadline = <see options below> 2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, other/later.
(see: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997
and https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163425)

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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We got 6 options.
Why 6? Because these represent a thought-out system:

2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, other/later.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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II.B)"thesis submission deadline"
thesis= 6, space= 1, submission= 10, space= 1, deadline= 8
So: 6 + 1 + 10 + 1 + 8 = 26 characters
Then:
space= 1 , "=" = 1 , space= 1
longest date option "2026 Nov" (8) or "other/later" (11)
"Thesis submission deadline = other/later" = 26+1+1+1+11= 40

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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2.b) ideal length of answer is 6 because there is 6 possible option in instructed email:
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https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/pluginfile.php/440055/mod_resource/content/1/demo0.pdf

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II.A) "thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov" (37)
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"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Nov" (37)
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr" (37)
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Nov" (37)
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I.A) 2024 Nov
2025 Apr
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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2.b) total number of potential answer is 6 according to demo0:
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https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/pluginfile.php/440055/mod_resource/content/1/demo0.pdf

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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WHY: Accuracy and clarity: By writing precisely and clearly, I help the reader understand the main points without unnecessary information or repetition. This means that precise wording can reduce the required character count while keeping the message complete and appropriate.

I chose 96 because I don't just answer by writing a year and a month, I write a detailed, short but still concise email in which I say thank you, write down the answer to the given question and how I try to do it as well as possible the thesis.

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WHY: I chose 100 because this is the maximum number in which I can write a concise and normal answer, I think more than 100 would be exaggeration, if I write exactly 100, it includes everything.
If you think about it, if someone really writes a decent, nice email, it's always under 100 words, but not just a few. It depends on what kind of email it is.

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WHY: The email/document specifies that the response should be formatted as follows: "thesis submission deadline = ," with the options being 2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, or other/later

https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997

The fixed text "thesis submission deadline = " is 29 characters, and adding an 8-character option (e.g., "2026 Apr") totals exactly 37 characters, as required. This length was verified using Excels LEN() (or HOSSZ) function to ensure precision.
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163425

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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III.a:
1st line: In this line, we simply greet the teacher. (about 10 words)
2nd line: Here, we specify the date we have chosen and provide a reason for it. (about 20-30 words)
3rd line: This is the line where we reassure the teacher as to why we chose this particular date. (about 30-40 words)
4th line: We thank the teacher in advance for their future support and show our commitment to complete the work. (about 5-10 words)
5th line: Farewell. (about 5 words)
In all: 70-100 words
There are plenty of examples, but the amount of words can only be so much. It depends on the person, what and how much they write.

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WHY: I assume that this question is about the number of the ideal/standardized "ANSWERS" (LENGTH NOT MENTIONED). According to the "demo0" file, there are 6 given ANSWERS. In demo0, Mentor Laci gave 6 optional thesis submission deadlines and counted them as answers.
Option 1. 2024 Nov. (counted as Answer number 1)
Option 2. 2025 Apr. (counted as Answer number 2)
Option 3. 2025 Nov. (counted as Answer number 3)
Option 4. 2026 Apr. (counted as Answer number 4)
Option 5. 2026 Nov. (counted as Answer number 5)
Option 6. Other/Later. (counted as Answer number 6).

IF number of LENGTHS are considered, my answer could be 37.

WHY: From my point of view, there are 37 characters in the ideal/standardized answer (ONLY IF the Subject field of email is considered). According to the "demo0", it mentioned that the subject field is has to prepared (Thesis Submission Deadline = <...See options below...> and the FULL ideal/standardized answer is prepared like "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2025 Apr" (37 characters and includes space and equal sign).

IF the body content of email is considered an answer, the ideal/standardized answer length could be changed. In demo0, it mentioned that "you MUST contain clear data with full names and NEPTUN codes". There are many types of limits on names. For example, in Passport Systems of some countries limit names to around 39 characters. On the other hand, in Social Media Platforms limit names to around 50 characters. Besides, in Databases, many databases and forms might limit names to 255 characters which is a common maximum length for text fields, and it could be more confusing and complicated.

(See: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/pluginfile.php/440055/mod_resource/content/1/demo0.pdf
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163453)

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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III.b:
If someone goes overboard, they might end up with more than 100 words, even when its unnecessary. A longer name or adding extra, unneeded details can also push the count above 100. The word count may also vary depending on the month chosen, as months differ in letter count.

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III.a 2024: January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December
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48 element (https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163488)
III.b One potential issue with maintaining a maximal number of 48 elements for the ideal standardized answers is ensuring clarity and relevance in each response. With each element tied to specific years and months, responses may risk becoming redundant or overly segmented if additional years or specific context shifts are introduced. Another challenge is maintaining the ideal length of 256 words(https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163488) across all entries. Some entries may require less detail, while others might exceed the ideal length to capture necessary context, especially if explaining variations across years.

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WHY: if ideal/standardized means length: 
Thesis submission deadline = 2024 Apr = 37
 (see: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163453)

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II.b.
I chose 5 elements as the ideal structure because it provides a balanced way to cover an answer comprehensively while keeping it organized. This number allows for sections such as an introduction, key points, and a conclusion, fitting well within the 256-character (or the previously defined) limit. Breaking down responses into five core segments also aligns with best practices in structured communication, where clarity and focus are maintained by limiting the number of main points.

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III.a.
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III.b.
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Task I.b: I chose 250 words as the ideal length based on a balance between conciseness and completeness, which aligns with standardized communication goals. Derivation Rule: The answer should be concise enough to be evaluated efficiently but detailed enough to cover key points. A 250-word length achieves this by providing a structured response that meets expectations without unnecessary information. Additionally, this length is suitable for processing in an automated system, as outlined in the report.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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I.b.
WHY: For example (thesis submission deadline = < 2024 Nov>) lenght is 40
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163493

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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WHY: This number reflects the potential standardized categories required to answer the question in a structured format fully. Given 4 years (e.g., 2024, 2025, 2026,2027 ) with 5 points each (4 years * 5 points = 20), this allows a thorough answer that aligns with the ideal length without unnecessary expansion. Thus, 20 elements is a reasonable maximum for covering all essential points.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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WHY: I assume that this question is about the number of the maximal ELEMENTS of the ideal/standardized ANSWERS-string and in the task II.b "... concerning the maximal number of the potential ideal ANSWERS (with the same ideal length guessed and proved before) ...". From my point of view, according to the demo0, the maximal ELEMENTS are (IF LENGTH IS NOT CONSIDERED)
Element 1. 2024 Nov
Element 2. 2025 Apr
Element 3. 2025 Nov
Element 4. 2026 Apr
Element 5. 2026 Nov
Element 6. other/later "(YYYY MMM)".
Even though we have to choose ONLY ONE given element of the thesis submission deadline, all the elements above are considered as MAXIMAL ELEMENTS OF THE POTENTIAL IDEAL ANSWERS.

IF the LENGTHS of the ideal/standardized answers are considered, the answer could be changed.
"2024 Nov" (considered as 8 characters)
"2025 Apr" (considered as 8 characters)
"2025 Nov" (considered as 8 characters)
"2026 Apr" (considered as 8 characters)
"2026 Nov" (considered as 8 characters)
"other/later" (considered as 11 characters). So, the maximal number of each elements' lengths could be 8+8+8+8+8+11="51". (ONLY IF "other/later" NOT considered as "YYYY MMM" format)

IF "other/later" is considered as "YYYY MMM" format, the answer could be changed too). It means:
"2024 Nov" (considered as 8 characters)
"2025 Apr" (considered as 8 characters)
"2025 Nov" (considered as 8 characters)
"2026 Apr" (considered as 8 characters)
"2026 Nov" (considered as 8 characters)
"YYYY MMM" (considered as 8 characters). As a result of it, the maximal number of each elements' lengths could be 8+8+8+8+8+8="48" (ONLY IF the "other/later" is formatted as "YYYY MMM" and LENGTH also considered).

In the end, I do not believe that the number of the ideal/standardized answer elements resulted as the combinations of the thesis submission deadline dates.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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1.a Its 8 The number 8 refers to the length of the strings, specifically for the examples "2024-JAN" and "2027-DEC." It seems that these strings, which might represent dates in a specific format, each consist of 8 characters:

"2024-JAN" has 8 characters (including the dash).
"2027-DEC" also has 8 characters (including the dash).

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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WHY: According to demo0.pdf maximal elements of the ideal answer has six options 2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov and other/later. There are exactly five distinct options with the format in YYYY MMM. So for the last option(other/later) should be in the same format.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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1.b. I believe the ideal string length is 8 characters because it ensures consistency, clarity, and efficiency. The format "YYYY-MMM" (e.g., "2024-JAN") provides the necessary date information in a compact and standardized way. This fixed length prevents ambiguity, making data processing simpler and faster, as all entries are uniform.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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IF number of LENGTHS are considered as the length of ELEMENTS (Like as Professor said in Problem A, in "https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163493") the result could be changed.
IF we only consider about ELEMENTS, it would be like this:
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Element 6. "other/later" (considered as 11 characters) -> (ONLY IF other/later is NOT formatted as YYYY MMM)
IF other/later is FORMATTED as "YYYY MMM" format, it would also contain 8 characters (space is included).

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
The professor probably chose 256 because its a common number in computing. Its 2^8, which fits well with data storage and character encoding. Using 256 as a limit keeps things simple and works well with standard systems.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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WHY: The maximal Elements of the Standardized Answer-String is 6 since the given options are "2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, other/later"

The maximal Elements of the Standardized Answer-String = 6
Ideal Number of Elements = 1 (selected deadline)

I am guessing the 6th option other/later is a semi-standardized answer that is not in ideal Standardized answer strings but can be parsed and processed in different ways.

for the case of other/later students would write in the same date format which is
thesis submission deadline = YYYY MMM

e.g.
Algorithmic Approach:
Identify Date Format (YYYY MMM)by using a regex pattern like ...\b(202[4-7])\s(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\b to locate the date within the input, and handle possible different formats like in this example (See: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163272) then reformat into the standardized answer.

there are more potential solutions for non/semi-standardized answers/challenges/situations
(e.g. https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163149 and
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163145)

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 2.a Its 6
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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2. "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2025 Apr" (37 characters)
3. "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2025 Nov" (37 characters)
4. "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2026 Apr" (37 characters)
5. "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2026 Nov" (37 characters)
6. "Thesis Submission Deadline = YYYY MMM" (37 characters)
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2.a. "2025 Apr" (8 characters)
3.a. "2025 Nov" (8 characters)
4.a. "2026 Apr" (8 characters)
5.a. "2026 Nov" (8 characters)
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2.b "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2025 Apr" (37 characters)
3.b "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2025 Nov" (37 characters)
4.b "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2026 Apr" (37 characters)
5.b "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2026 Nov" (37 characters)
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2.c. "2025 Apr" (8 characters)
3.c. "2025 Nov" (8 characters)
4.c. "2026 Apr" (8 characters)
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2.b
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III.a - List of Potential Elements:
2024: January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December
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Task III.b - Potential Problems with Ideal Length and Number of Elements:
A few challenges could arise with using 20 elements and a 250-character limit:

1. Balancing Detail and Brevity: While 250 characters can cover essential points, some elements might need to be overly concise, potentially losing detail.

2. Consistency Across Topics: For complex topics, fitting all necessary information within the 250-character ideal length could be restrictive, especially if more supporting evidence is needed.

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WHY: The maximum number for ideal standardized answers is stated in the document. There are only six valid options: "2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, and other/later" for a thesis submission deadline. All these options mean another answer in conformation with the format requirement "thesis submission deadline = YYYY MMM" or "other /later". The number of the total ideal answers is confined to just these six, since no additional dates are allowed.
(https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997
and https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62886#p163421)

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Ib: The ideal length of the answer is exactly 37 characters because the document/email provided explicit guidance for formatting the response as thesis submission deadline = . This structure includes a fixed part, "thesis submission deadline =," which is 29 characters long, including spaces, and a selected date option, like "2024 Nov," which adds another 8 characters. Together, this totals exactly 37 characters.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Problem: Cannot write other/later on thesis submission deadline, it makes system unable to detect. System can detect " Thesis submission deadline= YYYY MMM".

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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II.b: In alignment with the demo0 structure, the "ideal/standardized answer-string" is intended to maintain consistency. The answer begins with "thesis submission deadline =" and typically concludes with one of several options. Although there are six potential dates listed (2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, or other/later), its possible to argue that only five are practical for most scenarios, excluding the "other/later" category, which could be considered less standardized due to its non-specific nature.
The decision to consider only five options rests on the assumption that "other/later" might be less commonly chosen and lacks a specific date, which reduces its alignment with the idea of a strictly standardized answer. Without "other/later," there are precisely five options, each corresponding to a specific deadline, thus maintaining a fixed format without ambiguity. This view supports the idea that five well-defined dates could be the practical maximum for standardized answers that fit the structured format.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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IIIa. Following the standardized answer structure and my answer to Task/Question II.a (where I identified 5 as the maximal number of ideal answer strings), here are all of the potential ideal answers that fit the 37-character ideal length established in Task/Question Ia:

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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III.b: One potential issue with setting both the ideal length to exactly 37 characters and limiting the maximal number of ideal answers to five is the exclusion of the "other/later" option. While "other/later" technically fits within the standardized structure of "thesis submission deadline =," it has 11 characters, which would make the total length 40 characters instead of 37. This could disrupt the uniformity of the 37-character standard, as including "other/later" would result in a slightly longer string.

Additionally, the rigid 37-character limit might limit flexibility if the full range of options needs to be accounted for. While 37 characters work perfectly for the five specific date options, the "other/later" category poses a challenge to this ideal length. This raises a question about whether the ideal length should be adjusted slightly or if exceptions should be allowed for cases like "other/later." Therefore, while 37 characters work effectively for the five standardized options, achieving absolute consistency may require reconsidering the inclusion of longer options like "other/later" to accommodate all scenarios without compromising the ideal structure.

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Length must be 37 characters (from Task I.a)
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PROBLEM: One potential issue with the list of standardized answers is that "other/later" does not follow the YYYY MMM format, which could create inconsistencies if responses are processed for uniformity. Since "other/later" does not specify a particular date, it could be interpreted differently, making it less precise than the other options.
PROBLEM: requirement of an exact length can be challenging, as even small formatting errors or spacing issues could make an otherwise correct response appear invalid. Although we aim to follow the format exactly, minor mistakes are possible, which may affect the consistency of our responses.

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1. thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov
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4. thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr
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6. thesis submission deadline = YYYY MMM --> in case of other/later

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
PROBLEM: The option "other/later" could present formatting challenges, as it allow for various date entries beyond the standardized set.
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163581
PROBLEM: if students don't follow the exact YYYY MMM format, consistency issues could arise, affecting parsing and managing gathered data effectively.
https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163581

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 1
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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(First task and it already has a deadline: by 23:59 on the 13th Sep 2024, please send an email to the already well-known address (ptlklszl@my-x.hu) with ONLY the subject field prepared like this thesis submission deadline = <see options below> 2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, other/later)

According to the instruction shown in the demo 0 our e-mail should be written like:

Subject: Thesis Submission Deadline = 2024 Dec

This means that we only needed to write one subject line anwser

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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created: 2024-11-05 16:05:00.000000
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Because I think we need to present our thesis within our graduation year (before 6th semester finishes), so considering that we have 10 possible times next year, from September of 2024 to June of 2025.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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"thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov"
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr"
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Nov"
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr"
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Nov" "thesis submission deadline = YYYY MMM -- > in case of other/later" The length must be 37 and one of the six options.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Problem A: The "other/later" option doesn't follow the YYYY MMM format, which can lead to confusion. Without a specific date, it might be interpreted differently, making it less clear than the other choices.

Problem B: Requiring an exact length can be challenging because even small formatting or spacing errors can make a correct response seem invalid. While we try to follow the format closely, minor mistakes can affect consistency.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
I.A 5 possible answers given:

2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov
So, the ideal/standardized answer count would be 5.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
I believe that the number of ideal/standardized answers is 5 because the instructions provide precisely five options that students should choose from. These options represent different deadlines that students might aim for when submitting their thesis. Since the mentor specified that students should submit an email with only the subject formatted according to these options, the standardized answers seem to be limited to these five specific deadline choices.

This standardized approach ensures uniformity and allows the mentor and Professor Pitlik to categorize students by their intended submission dates easily. The emails strict format (with only the subject line filled) also reinforces that responses should align exactly with one of these five options, supporting the idea that there are five "ideal" or "standardized" answers.

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created: 2024-11-05 17:24:00.000000
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 5
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userfullname: student_2
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
I believe that the maximal number of elements in the ideal/standardized answer string is 5 because each part of the phrase contributes to forming the required format as per the instructions. The mentor emphasized a specific structure for the subject line, and following that precisely means including each part exactly as written. The string components are as follows:

Three words ("thesis," "submission," "deadline"), which describe the purpose of the email.
An equals sign ("="), which separates the phrase from the chosen deadline.
One of the five deadline options (e.g., "2024 Nov").
Since each of these elements is essential to form the exact required subject line, the maximal number of elements in the ideal/standardized answer string is 5. This structure ensures clarity and standardization, making it easy for the mentor and department head to sort and categorize responses.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Based on the standardized format and ideal length, here are the five possible answer strings:

"thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov"
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr"
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Nov"
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr"
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Nov"
Each string contains exactly 5 elements: three words, the equals sign, and a deadline option.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Potential Problems and Challenges:

Formatting Precision: Students must follow the exact format, so any small deviations (like extra spaces) could lead to errors.
Limited Options: With only five deadlines, some students may find their options restrictive.
Ambiguity in Element Counting: The interpretation of "elements" (words, spaces, punctuation) could vary, causing confusion.
Rigidity in Ideal Length: The strict 5-element structure may not allow flexibility if extra information is needed.

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userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-11-05 17:56:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-05 17:56:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Task/Question Ia
Number of ideal/standardized answers: 6

Task/Question Ib
The ideal number of standardized answers is 6 because there are six specific options provided for the thesis submission deadline:

2024 Nov
2025 Apr
2025 Nov
2026 Apr
2026 Nov
other/later
These options cover all possible answers, making the total number of standardized answers six. This allows for clear and consistent responses, making it easier for mentors and professors to track and manage students' planned thesis submission dates.

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userfullname: student_18
created: 2024-11-05 18:20:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-05 18:25:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
3.a) "thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov" 
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr" 
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Nov" 
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr" 
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Nov" 
"thesis submission deadline = other/later" 

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modified: 2024-11-05 18:36:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
3.b) according to the demo0 https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/pluginfile.php/440055/mod_resource/content/1/demo0.pdf
number of potential answer is 6
1. "thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov"
2. "thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr"
3. "thesis submission deadline = 2025 Nov"
4. "thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr"
5. "thesis submission deadline = 2026 Nov"
6. "thesis submission deadline = other/later"
but the problem is (other/later) can be any year and month YYYY MMM. so it can cause confusion.

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userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-11-05 18:36:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-05 18:36:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: II.A) 6
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dataset_id: f4ada376-8c67-4ac7-9e3b-84c343c63721
userfullname: student_15
created: 2024-11-05 18:37:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-05 18:37:00.000000
subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
II.b)To find the total possible submission deadlines for your thesis, we can look at the years and months.

Years: You have 3 years to consider:

2024
2025
2026
Months: You have 6 options:

November (2024)
April (2025)
November (2025)
April (2026)
November (2026)
Other/Later
Now, to calculate the total number of combinations, we multiply the number of years by the number of months:

Total options
=
3 years
×
6 options
=
18
Total options=3 years×6 options=18
Thus, there are 18 possible combinations, but the distinct submission deadlines are 6.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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3.a) Potential Elements of the Ideal Answer-Strings

I identified the following ideal answer strings, adhering to the specified format of "thesis submission deadline = YYYY MMM":

"thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov" (37 characters)
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr" (37 characters)
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Nov" (37 characters)
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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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3.b)
I see a few potential problems with having too many ideal answers. First, if there are too many similar responses, it can create confusion about what truly qualifies as an ideal answer. This might make it hard for evaluators to decide which responses stand out.

When it comes to ideal lengths, setting a specific range is tricky. A narrow length might limit students' ability to express their ideas fully, while a very broad range could lead to inconsistencies in grading. Its important to find a balance so that answers remain clear and effective without overwhelming anyone involved in the evaluation process.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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I-b)To meet the required formatting for the "ideal/standardized answer-string" as outlined in demo0.pdf, responses must begin with "thesis submission deadline =" and end with one of six specified choices: 2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov, or other/later. Notably, five of these options are in the YYYY MMM format, creating a consistent structure. For greater uniformity, it may be beneficial to also present the "other/later" option in the same format (e.g., "0000 Other") to align visually and structurally with the other entries. This approach enhances clarity and maintains a standardized pattern across all responses.
(see: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/pluginfile.php/440055/mod_resource/content/1/demo0.pdf )

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: II.A) 6
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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II-B) To find possible thesis submission deadlines, consider the years and options:
*Years*: 2024, 2025, 2026
*Options*: Six distinct options:
1. November 2024
2. April 2025
3. November 2025
4. April 2026
5. November 2026
6. Other/Later
These six options form the "maximal elements" for standardized answers. The "other/later" option can still be processed in a semi-standardized way if students use the YYYY MMM format.
*Total Combinations*: Although multiplying 3 years by 6 options gives 18, the actual distinct deadlines remain limited to these 6 specified options.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
III-a)Ideal Answer Structure:There are six ideal, 37-character answer strings:
"thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov"
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr"
"thesis submission deadline = 2025 Nov"
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr"
"thesis submission deadline = 2026 Nov"
"thesis submission deadline = other/later".Each string combines the fixed phrase (29 characters) with a specific 8-character deadline, ensuring clear and consistent responses.

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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III-B) The primary focus is on ensuring that all entries are valid within the specified timeframe outlined in the demo0-annex. Any dates prior to September 2024 are excluded to avoid misrepresenting the submission timeline. Additionally, the required response length is 8 characters in the "YYYY-MMM" format, ensuring consistency and adherence to the specified criteria. By maintaining a uniform format, clarity is enhanced, and the submission aligns with the guidelines provided in demo0. This approach guarantees that all responses are valid, precise, and in full compliance with the instructions.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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ALL the possible correct answer strings, all 8 characters long:
(Includes only ELEMENTS)
1.2024-Nov
2.2025-Apr
3.2025-Nov
4.2026-Apr
5.2026-Nov
6.YYYY-MMM
IF STRINGS and ELEMENTS are considered
1."Thesis Submission Deadline = 2024 Nov" (37 characters)
2. "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2025 Apr" (37 characters)
3. "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2025 Nov" (37 characters)
4. "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2026 Apr" (37 characters)
5. "Thesis Submission Deadline = 2026 Nov" (37 characters)
6. "Thesis Submission Deadline = YYYY MMM" (37 characters)

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Problems with Answer Strings
There are a few problems to address when making sure the answers are correct:

Problem A: Same Length

All answers need to be 8 characters long. Dates like "2024-Nov" and "2026-Nov" fit this length. We should use the "YYYY-MMM" format to keep all answers the same length.

Problem B: Valid Dates

We need to make sure the dates are valid based on the demo0-annex. For example, if the demo0-annex starts from "2024-Nov," we should not accept earlier dates like "2024-JAN" as valid.

Solution and Self-Check
To solve these problems:

Use a Standard Format: All dates should be in the "YYYY-MMM" format. This keeps the length the same for all answers.
Check Valid Dates: Only include dates from "2024-Nov" onwards. This ensures all dates are valid according to the demo0-annex.
1.2024-Nov
2.2025-Apr
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6.YYYY-MMM

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: YYYY-MMM is not a real answer - this is a meta-interpretation...
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Each evaluator should have voted with correct or incorrect about the estimated/derived ideal length! If it is incorrect, then it brings 0 point to the aggregated score defined in Quasi-Exam-II.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Each evaluator should have voted with correct or incorrect about the estimated/derived ideal length! If it is incorrect, then it brings 0 point to the aggregated score defined in Quasi-Exam-II.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Is the possibility to choose the "other/later"-option a real information for the database? If the defined YYYY-MMM codes could not be identified, is it still relevant, whether the option "other/later" could be identified?

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Each evaluator should have voted with correct or incorrect about the estimated/derived ideal length! If it is incorrect, then it brings 0 point to the aggregated score defined in Quasi-Exam-II.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Not only the estimation as such, but also the chronological position of an answer is relevant, if the winner should be derived!

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Not only the estimation as such, but also the chronological position of an answer is relevant, if the winner should be derived!

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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The ideal length and the count of the potential answers with the ideal length are two different challenges. Each evaluator should have voted with correct or incorrect about the estimated/derived ideal length and also about the count of the potential answers with ideal length! If one of them is incorrect, then this part brings 0 point to the aggregated score defined in Quasi-Exam-II. In the worst case: 0+0 / YYYY-MMM = 8 characters / other/later <> 8 characters c.f. we are searching for the count of the potential answers WITH THE IDEAL LENGTH! If the ideal length is finally defined, it is a parameter, which MUST BE USED for each further interpretation of the tasks/challenges, therefore also in case of the count of the potential answers with the ideal length!

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: We are searching for exactly two numbers: without IF/THEN-layers...
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p164020
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Each evaluator should have voted with correct or incorrect about the estimated/derived ideal length! If it is incorrect, then it brings 0 point to the aggregated score defined in Quasi-Exam-II. It is also imporant, that an answer does only deliver one single number (without IF/THEN-layers)! The quality of the answers has therefore more layers: correctness/time/format

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Standard part with single number and a very compact rule interpretation! The quality of the answers has therefore one more layers: correctness/time/format/compactness <--The aggregated score (see Quasi Exam II) should have been derived based on all rational existing evaluation sublayers!

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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Each evaluator should have voted with correct or incorrect about the estimated/derived ideal length! If it is incorrect, then it brings 0 point to the aggregated score defined in Quasi-Exam-II. It is a new question, whether the standard answer does really need the characters of "I.a" or nor? Is a/this Moodle-thread as structure-giving frame capable of handling the relationships of questions and answers?

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
If a compact answer is not helpful enough for learning pupuses, than the longer variation can be usefull - but it is important to see the difference: do we need correctness and compactness in the core communication or do we need being prepared for potential learning effects?

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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How to evaluate, if the direct answer (for the question about the ideal lenght) is incorrect, but the why-layer could be accepted? It means: the sublayers of the evaluation (defined before): do have relationships/connections to each other: only the correct number (for the length) AND parallel the correct why-layer bring points! The compactness of the why-layer could be evaluated in a sepatated way, but why should be this rational, if each sublayers are in the same time relevant? OR: we do need a further sublayer for the evaluation: correctness/time/format/compactness/relations?!

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: Well-well-welll :-)
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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What was the question/task? We are searching for the count of the answers with the IDEAL length! <--On the field of the computer sciences is each word (sign) totally relevant (see syntax-expectations of source codes)!

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
8<>11 - Important question: Whether the affected Students read the previous entries of each other at all?

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created: 2024-11-15 08:01:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: :-)
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 8<>11
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created: 2024-11-15 15:29:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-15 15:29:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
In terms of the validity of the answer, the option "other/later" is not useful since it does not align with the system's purpose which provided valid 5 options-"2024 Nov, 2025 Apr, 2025 Nov, 2026 Apr, 2026 Nov". Furthermore, choosing the option "other/later" as I mentioned as following
--> https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p163581
"for the case of other/later students would write in the same date format which is
thesis submission deadline = YYYY MMM"
while it can fulfill the structural requirements (Ideal length), it does not provide valuable and relevant information.
Thus, the option- "other/later" should be eliminated so that we can collect meaningful and relevant database entries.

The ideal length of the answer - 37
The maximal Elements of the Standardized Answer-String - 5

1. thesis submission deadline = 2024 Nov
2. thesis submission deadline = 2025 Apr
3. thesis submission deadline = 2025 Nov
4. thesis submission deadline = 2026 Apr
5. thesis submission deadline = 2026 Nov

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created: 2024-11-15 21:20:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-15 21:20:00.000000
subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message:
Count = ? (the question does need a number) - The set is correct, but the expected answer is not given... Why? On the field of the computer sciences, the communication is never arbitrary, always trying to be standardized...

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 8<>11
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created: 2024-11-15 21:21:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: We did need a real set with real items, without a meta-item (YYYY-MMM)...
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 8<>11
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: If exact numbers are needed, IF/THENs are forbidden...
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 37<>40 (8<>11) - see: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p164013
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: 8<>11
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: Why, if you could read all of the previous entries?
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam I.
message: I/a and or II/a?
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created: 2024-11-06 09:24:00.000000
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subject: Quasi Exam II.
message:
Please, evaluate each entry in the Quasi-Exam-I thread! The evaluation is a number between 0-9. 0 means: the logic of the particular person is irrational concerning the problem and/or concerning the logics of the other Students. 9 means: the given logic is error-free, ideal, excellent. 5-6-7-8 mean: the logic is rather basically strong. 1-2-3-4 mean: the logic is rather basically weak. Please, do not forget, you have onyl one single vote (evaluation score: 0-9) for each person (independent from the number of the existing entries behind - theoretically everybody should have 6 entries I.a/b, II.a/b, IIIa/b). It means: you have to identify in the thread each potential (unique) person. The following list with names and neptun codes should therefore be used, and you only may change the "x" position with 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 and you may create ONE SINGLE entry with all these names/codes/scores in one take within the thread Quasi-Exam-II. 

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userfullname: professor_1
created: 2024-11-06 09:25:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-06 09:25:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
message:
Amarsanaa Amgalanbaatar:LM9NNF:x
Ankhbold Amin-Erdene:DUBJW0:x
Batbayar Munkh-Orgil:B8OIEW:x
Bayanmunkh Ganbat:H4TNN5:x
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MD Adnan Hossain Alif:BJT86N:x
MD Shahriar Islam:D5MUMA:x
Mortazavi Mahshid:E68IAT:x
Munkhjargal Ariunbold:AUJ3PC:x
Nyambaatar Zandangarav:LJANRL:x
Öztürk Gülsah:DJU2DF:x
Rajesh Aadi:SKANN0:x
Sukh-Ochir Dulguun:DKRV8N:x
Tsetsegsuren Namjiljav:BEVGH5:x
Turtogtokh Shagai:COV22Y:x
Tuyatsetseg Battuguldur:BVX1GK:x

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created: 2024-11-06 09:31:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-06 09:31:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
message:
Deadline for this evaluation process: 2024.XI.08.24.00 (estimated time 60 minutes). The result will be: each person should have from each person (= it is therefore necessary to have a self-evalution too) a score (0-9). (Remark: the number/count of entries in case of each persons, and the timestamps of these entries should not exctracted from the thread as fields of a database...:-)

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created: 2024-11-06 09:44:00.000000
modified: 2024-11-06 09:44:00.000000
subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Please, study the following file: https://miau.my-x.hu/miau/315/quasi_exam_II_collected.xlsx
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Q1: What kind of antagonisms can be detected? Please, formulate your answers extremely precise - c.f. which particular cells/sheets have antagonistic contents + WHY?! (estimated time 30 minutes)

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Q2: Who is the best? Please, derive your aggregated evaluations for each person based on each available score + derivation: WHY even so?! (estimated time 30 minutes)

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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1. MD Shahriar vs. MD Adnan (Rows 15 and 14): MD Shahriar has scores of 5 and 6 in columns 10 and 12, while MD Adnan has zeros there. This difference highlights a bit of opposition in their scoring pattern.

2. Turtogtokh vs. Öztürk and Rajesh (Rows 23, 19, and 20): Turtogtokh has a high score of 9 in column 10, but Öztürk and Rajesh scored much lower (3 and 0). This shows a big contrast in scores, which stands out in this part of the table.

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Ganzorig Boldsukh is the best one.
WHY: He has the highest average score out of us, indicating his response and explanation was understood and respected the most by us.

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Firstly, The "problem?" column shows antagonistic tendencies, indicating differences between scores given and received:
High Negative Values (e.g. -5 in rows AF4 and AF20):
These scores suggest individuals who tend to grade others lower than they are rated by their classmates.
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Positive differences, such as the +5 in row AF10 (Dangiwa Japheth Jerry), show a person who tends to rate others at an average of 6 but overall, other peers tend to grade this individual at a much lower grade, at an average of 1.
These examples clearly show antagonistic behavior between individuals and other peers in evaluating classmates from their perspectives.

Secondly, we can see strong antagonism behavior in the evaluation of Tuyatsetseg Battuguldur.
on rows, AB26 and O26 have values 4 and 9 respectively which means Honti Benjamin and Muhammad Khuram Latif have opposing ideas concerning Tuyatsetseg Battuguldur's answer.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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What impresses me is that no one got a score under 5 making me believe that no antagonisms could be detected. But deriving an antagonisms from the evaluations are, where people do not reciprocate high scores indicating potential biases or strategic underscoring and some individuals appear to have scored each other lower deliberately. Example: Ankhbold Amin-Erdene received a score of 7 from most participants but was given a notably lower score by Bayanmunkh Ganbat (cell (6, F) where it is marked as 6. Conversely, Ankhbold Amin-Erdene gave Bayanmunkh Ganbat a score of 7 (cell (4, D).
Mutual underscoring can be derived from columns P (MD Adnan Hossain Alif) and Q (MD Shahriar Islam):
Both participants consistently gave each other lower scores (cells (10, P) and (10, Q)) with scores of 5 and 6 respectively, while their average scores from others are closer to 7.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Munkhjargal Ariunbold stands out as the top performer with a total score of 137. This high score highlights their consistents across various evaluative criteria.

Why Munkhjargal Ariunbold?
Munkhjargal received consistently high ratings from nearly all evaluators, reflecting broad approval. Unlike other high scorers, Munkhjargals scores show little variability, suggesting a universal appreciation for their contributions.

Comparison with Others
Other top scorers, such as Enkhtur Yaruu-Aldar (136) and Ganzorig Boldsukh (129), also performed well, but with more score variability. Munkhjargals consistently high ratings across all evaluators.

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According to an average of received scores from others, Shagai Turtogtokh has a value of 5.2 (SUM 138) which is the highest performance in class compared to others moreover he tends to agree with other peers' ideas.

Secondly, Munkhjargal Ariunbold has an average score of 5.12 (SUM 137) and tends to agree with others having a value of 0 on column "problem?"
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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This analysis reveals antagonisms in peer evaluations, with contrasting scores suggesting different standards and biases. The problem column highlights people like Ankhbold, who rate others lower than theyre rated, and Jerry, who rates generously but is rated lower by peers. Cases like Tuyatsetsegs contrasting scores further reflect polarized opinions, while mutual underscoring between Adnan and Shahriar suggests potential bias. Together, these patterns reveal complex dynamics in peer evaluations.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Munkhjargal Ariunbold stands out as the top performer with a total score of 137, marked by consistent high ratings and alignment with peers (a problem? score of 0), indicating broad approval and reliability. While Ganzorig Boldsukh also excelled with the highest average score, reflecting clear and respected responses, Munkhjargals steady, high ratings across all evaluators underscore a well-rounded, widely appreciated approach.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam II.
message:
The primary issue in assessing this question is that many participants either didnt submit responses or ran out of time, resulting in numerous scores of zero. However, I believe Shagai Turtogtokh stands out as the best.
WHY? In Quasi Exam I, even though I typically prefer more elaborate answers, I found his response particularly impressive. This is also reflected in the evaluations, as he achieved a high score, likely due to the logical and clear way he explained each point, and not only the best in terms of scores, but also in terms of logic.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Significant conflicts have arisen among students, largely due to varying submission times. For example, if someone missed the deadline, it resulted in an automatic zero, which then impacted everyones scores. Additionally, some assess the results in a straightforward manner, considering a score of 0 as the worst and 9 as the best, with the other numbers representing a range between these. In my view, these differences mainly stem from a few students who forgot to submit on time, or who were delayed while others had already completed the assignment. If these delays hadnt occurred, the discrepancies would likely be minimal, as I believe most students responded logically and achieved generally good scores.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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To answer this, I looked for places in the spreadsheet where peoples evaluations contradict each other. Basically, I wanted to see if different evaluators had opposite or very different opinions about the same person on the same criteria. Heres how I broke it down:
Detected Antagonisms:

Turtogtokh Shagai has conflicting scores: Some evaluators gave a 9 (like in their own submission and Munkhjaral's evaluation) while others gave 6-7
Munkhjargal Ariunbold shows variance: Received 9 from some evaluators (Turtogtokh, Enkhtur) but 6-7 from others (like Boldsukh's second evaluation)
Honti Benjámin's scores range from 6 to 9 (Sukh-Ochir gave 9, while others gave 6)

b) Treatment of Missing Scores:

Some evaluators marked missing scores with "x" while Boldsukh Ganzorig filled in actual numerical scores (4-6) for previously unmarked students like:

Belhadj Abderrahmane (marked as "x" by most, but 4 by Boldsukh)
MD Adnan Hossain Alif (marked as "x" by most, but 5 by Boldsukh)
Mortazavi Mahshid (marked as "x" by most, but 6-7 by Boldsukh)

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userfullname: student_4
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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
message:
I've noticed some issues in the peer evaluations that show antagonistic tendencies based on contradictory scores:

	*
CONTRADICTORY SCORES:

	* For instance, if "Muhammad Khuram Latif" gave a score of 8 to someone who didnt really participate or contribute, it makes you wonder how fair that score really is. It feels like there might be some bias or favoritism going on instead of a genuine evaluation of that person's work.
	* The same goes for "Cabral de Noronha e Menezes Furtado António Maria." If they got a high score from someone who also didnt participate, it creates a contradiction. It makes it hard to trust those scores since they dont reflect actual contributions.

	*
WHY THIS HAPPENS:

	* LACK OF PARTICIPATION: When students dont engage with the tasks, they cant give valid evaluations. So, if they score others, it often leads to inflated scores based on personal relationships rather than real performance. This really messes with the integrity of the whole evaluation process.
	* RANDOM SCORING: If someone is giving scores to classmates who didnt contribute, it shows theyre not taking the evaluation seriously. This can create tension among those who actually put in the effort, making it feel unfair that some are getting high scores without doing the work.

In summary, these patterns really highlight the need for us to be more thoughtful and fairer in our evaluations to make sure everyone gets the recognition they deserve for their hard work.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
message:
After adding up all of the scores that are available and looking for pattern:
1.Munkhjargal Ariunbold and Turtogtokh Shagai emerge as top performers:
Both consistently received high scores (7-9 range)
Multiple evaluators gave them 8-9 scores
They maintained high scores across different evaluators

2. Enkhtur Yaruu-Aldar also shows strong performance:
Consistently received 7-8 scores
No significantly low scores
Stable evaluation across different reviewers

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
message:
After going through all the evaluations, I took a closer look at the scores for each person to figure out who stands out as the best. Heres what I found:

Based on the evaluations, I found that Turtogtokh Shagai has an average score of 5.2 (with a total of 138), which is indeed the highest in the class. This indicates not only strong performance but also a positive reception from peers.

In comparison, Munkhjargal Ariunbold has an average score of 5.12 (with a total of 137), which is also impressive. Its interesting to note that both individuals have shown a tendency to agree with their peers, as mentioned in the evaluations. This collaborative spirit likely contributes to their high scores, as they foster positive interactions and support within the group.


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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Turtogtokh Shagai has the highest average score (8.25) among the others. After that, Munkhjargal Ariunbold placed the second (8.00). Obviously Turtogtokh Shagai stands out as the best.
WHY: In QUASY exam 1, Turtogtokh Shagai's answer appreciated by the most of students and he brought the strongest argument and perspective, and he contrived logically accurate argument, even though Munkhjargal Ariunbold and Enkhtur Yaruu-Aldar have also the logical arguments.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Amarsanaa Amgalanbaatar has scores of 7 and 6, while Ankhbold Amin-Erdene alternates between 7 and 6, suggesting inconsistent criteria or biases among evaluators. Similarly, Ganzorig Boldsukh receives scores of 7 and 8, reflecting differing perspectives. Stronger antagonisms are evident in cases like Munkhjargal Ariunbold, with scores of 9 and 8, or Bayanmunkh Ganbat, where scores range from 6 to 8, indicating significant divergence in judgment. These patterns suggest contrasting views or evaluation inconsistencies, pointing to potential biases or subjective differences in scoring behavior.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Based on the available data, Munhjargal Ariunbold is the best, as he received scores from the highest number of attendees, with 18 individuals providing evaluations. Munhjargal accumulated a total of 139 points, resulting in an average score of 7.7.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Peer evaluations reveal underlying tensions, with scoring differences highlighting varied standards and biases. For instance, in the "problem?" column, Ankhbold Amin-Erdene consistently rates others lower than he is rated, suggesting a stricter view of his peers. Meanwhile, Amarsanaa Amgalanbaatar tends to score others slightly more favorably than he is rated, hinting at a lenient approach. Bayanmunkh Ganbats scores also show he receives lower ratings than he gives, pointing to a potential disparity in mutual perception. Together, these patterns reflect complex dynamics in peer evaluation.

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subject: Re: Quasi Exam II.
message:
Antagonisms:
Disparity in Scoring:

Sheet: data_1
Details: Low average scores given by evaluators like "Cabral de Noronha e Menezes Furtado António Maria" (~0.72) indicate non-participation or biased scoring.
Why: Undermines fairness and creates frustration for active contributors.
Unjustified High Scores:

Sheet: data_1
Details: Evaluators like "Muhammad Khuram Latif" potentially gave high scores without proper reason.
Why: Suggests favoritism, skews results, and affects trust.
Scoring by Non-Contributors:

Sheet: data_1 & raw
Details: Evaluators such as "MD Shahriar Islam" show little scoring output but still participate.
Why: Reduces reliability of assessments and fairness.
High Scores from Low Participation:

Sheet: data_1
Details: High scores given by low-participation peers suggest non-objective evaluations.
Why: Misrepresents contributions, causing antagonism among participants.

These issues highlight biases and inconsistencies that need addressing to maintain fair peer evaluations.

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subject: Tárgy: Re: Quasi Exam II.
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Turtogtokh Shagai stands out with the highest score of 138, which highlights not only exceptional individual achievement but also the positive regard from peers. This score reflects both solid performance and the ability to contribute positively to the group dynamic.

Munkhjargal Ariunbold follows closely with a total of 137 points. Like Turtogtokh Shagai, Munkhjargal Aruinbold demonstrates a strong ability to collaborate with peers. Their shared focus on teamwork likely contributes to the high regard both have received, fostering a supportive and effective group environment.

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Shagai Turtogtokh stands out for maintaining a high average score of 5.2 (total 138) across multiple evaluations, showcasing consistent approval from peers. His scores demonstrate low variability, indicating that evaluators consistently recognized his contributions positively. This suggests a reliable performance that peers valued uniformly.

Munkhjargal Ariunbold, with an average of 5.12 (total 137), also shows strong performance but with slightly more score consistency. The minimal variability in Munkhjargals scores indicates steady recognition from different evaluators, highlighting his dependable and cooperative nature.

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Example (K18 - Munkhjargal Ariunbold evaluating Nyambaatar Zandangarav): Ariunbold gives a 9 to Zandangarav, a notably high score indicating positive evaluation, yet Zandangaravs overall evaluation average stands lower at 5 (row V, average column). This discrepancy creates an antagonism, suggesting Ariunbolds assessment is either excessively generous or misaligned with general consensus.

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Looking at the scores students gave to each others, there was no score less than 4 other than 0. To find out the reason for the 0 points, firstly, the student giving score to others did not participate and all the points to be given became 0, and secondly, because the student did not participate in Quasi Exam I and did not wrote the answers, other students could not evaluate them, so 0 points or no points were given. From this, it can be concluded that those who gave points to those who did not answer were seen as passive and giving irrelevant random numbers.

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Deadlines are deadlines... especially on the real world of the enterprises (theoretically paying for all your activities, if at all)

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First off, the "targeted average" and "evaluator average" columns show some tensions in how classmates see each other. There are clear differences between how some students score others and how theyre scored in return, which hints at some mismatches in expectations.

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Munkhjargal stands out as the most balanced and highly scored student among the others. His scores are consistently high across evaluator and targeted averages, with no conflicts noted in the problem score, suggesting that he is fair.

This balanced scoring, and absence of antagonistic tendencies make Munkhjargal Ariunbold the best choice based on the available data.

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Detected Antagonisms
1.Evaluation Disparities:
MD Shahriar vs. MD Adnan (Rows 15 & 14): Shahriar scored 5 and 6, while Adnan got 0 in the same columns, reflecting differing standards or bias.
Turtogtokh vs. Öztürk & Rajesh (Rows 23, 19 & 20): Turtogtokh gave a 9, while others gave 3 and 0, indicating conflicting evaluations.

2."Problem?" Column Variance:

High Negative Values: Ankhbold Amin-Erdene (-5) and Nyambaatar Zandangarav (-5) scored stricter than their peers.
High Positive Values: Dangiwa Japheth Jerry (+5) rated generously but was scored lower by peers.

3.Favoritism and Bias:

Cabral de Noronha received high scores (9) despite low participation, suggesting favoritism.

MD Adnan & MD Shahriar: Both gave each other lower scores (5 and 6) than their group average (~7), showing potential bias.

4.Mismatched Peer Perceptions:

Munkhjargal (Row K18): Gave Nyambaatar a 9, while the group average was 5.
Nyambaatar (Row AB18): Scored Dulguun 7, above the class average of 5.

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Based on all the drafted problems: we do need an objective, optimization-based, anti-discimination-oriented mathematics for ranking objects (persons) in a multidimensional evaluation space where quasi arbitrary attributes can be defined about the Goodness-layers of persons... Yet, "arbitrary" might not mean: fact-independent! (c.f. https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=62967#p164031 + reactions to each other + ...)

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On the naive (not-optimized) level (see: total and/or average scores), a qualitative solution is never possible: https://miau.my-x.hu/miau/196/My-X%20Team_A5%20fuzet_EN_jav.pdf On the field of the computer sciences: it is necessary to know about the possible objectivity. There are typical decision situations (c.f. which object is better than an other one where object can be persons, source codes, processes, systems, enterprises, regions, time-intervals, etc.) needing the optimized objectiviy in a frequently/constantly way.

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Please, formulate your argumentation for each/some score(s) setting into the list for Quasi Exam II., if you want! Please, discuss about them, if you want! Please, be professional, and never touch the person as such, only the phenomenon (e.g. words, sentences, derivations, logics, etc.). In this thread, there are no special rules prescripted... (Estimated time: 60 minutes)


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This view is (still unexpected here and now) a special interpretation of a very important question: can we evaluate each person with the same value based on the available data (on all previous evaluations)? Please, try to create/identify an appropriate method for this question! (estimated time: 30 minutes)

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This view is (still unexpected here and now) a special interpretation of a very important question: can we evaluate each person with the same value based on the available data (on all previous evaluations)? Please, try to create/identify an appropriate method for this question! (estimated time: 30 minutes)

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" the underlying logic was generally the same"<--no-no-no, not at all! The question about the length of the ideal string as answer and also the question about the number of the potential strings with this ideal length make not possible to evaluate alternative answers as identical valuable! ONLY the correct answer is the correct answer and each other one is simply incorrect (see binary evaluation).

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Quasi Exam II. - WHY-layer
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"One notable response": 8 as ideal length is totally incorrect (see original email: https://moodle.kodolanyi.hu/mod/resource/view.php?id=154997). The standardized answer has to support not only the content, but also the identification of emails and this expectation do need a constant part in the ideal answer. the version of "YYYY MMM" has two variable parts and no constant part!

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created: 2024-11-13 17:44:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Quasi Exam II. - WHY-layer
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"Another student & 37": Who? Only one single person? Why do have each other person higher score than 0 at all where the correct answer (let alone any valuable online activity) is not given?

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created: 2024-11-13 17:48:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Quasi Exam II. - WHY-layer
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"A third student": The challenge is - to answer very clear questions - in a very clear way! The life-performance should not be evaluated - here and now... :-) (Please, be always very focused on the real targets... - 1000000 focusless answers < 1 correct answer )

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created: 2024-11-13 17:55:00.000000
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subject: Re: Tárgy: Quasi Exam II. - WHY-layer
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"This approach, while different, highlighted their interpretation of the requirements and showed how various formats could still align with the main logic of a standardized answer. + The slight variations in these answers stem from different interpretations of what constitutes a "standardized answer" based on format and requirements. While the actual length of the answers varied, these differences did not significantly impact the understanding of the questions logic." <--no-no-no, not at all! Each variation are incorrect if it does lead to incorrect conclusions. The challenge is not having arbitrary interpretation, the challenge is delivering the correct answers. There is no space for "main logic"! There is only space for correct answers!

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subject: Re: Tárgy: Quasi Exam II. - WHY-layer
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"The slight variations in these answers stem from different interpretations of what constitutes a "standardized answer" based on format and requirements. While the actual length of the answers varied, these differences did not significantly impact the understanding of the questions logic." <-- It is a very "significant impact" if an aswer is correct or not correct. More "significance" can not even be imagined! :-)

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